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From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
To: Bruno Victal <mirai@makinata.eu>
Cc: ludo@gnu.org, 62298@debbugs.gnu.org, maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com
Subject: [bug#62298] [PATCH 7/8] services: mpd: Use user-account (resp. user-group) for user (resp. group) fields.
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 06:30:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32c1e87f3f8bd18e1c18123991ac4dcfebd77b35.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c8b81d71-420b-189b-b8fc-74e0c244a048@makinata.eu>

Hi Bruno,

Am Dienstag, dem 21.03.2023 um 02:10 +0000 schrieb Bruno Victal:
> After giving some thought to this, IMO I think it's simply
> uninteresting for these fields to accept string values.
> Prior to the 5c5f0fc1135ff15f9c4adfc5f27eadd9a592b5d1 refactor, the
> names were hardcoded and the refactor allowed them to be changed.
I think it's a little late to come to this realization.  Note how my
prior attempt at fixing 61570 was delayed for more than a month so that
a proper sanitizer can be implemented and would have had a better user
interface than what you are currently proposing.

> Accepting strings is simply uninteresting (or bad) since:
> 
> * A string doesn't uniquely identify an account and results in buggy
> behavior [1].
> 
> * Since the string values are only used to set the 'name' of the
> user-account/group records, which is specific to the service as
> they're created within the mpd-account procedure, it's simply setting
> a vanity value. It's as interesting as allowing the filename in
> (mixed-text-file "mpd.conf" ...) to be set by the user.
> 
> * It's clearly unsanitizable since it would require accessing other
> fields.  Monkeying within (mpd-accounts) with special symbols just
> obfuscates the code with no clear benefits to be had, in addition to
> defeating the point of having a sanitizer in the first place.
> 
> 
> I fail to see the utility in ever accepting strings here for what
> amounts to a vanity change in 'ps aux' output. 
Need I remind you that the original concern was about backwards API
compatibility?  Yes, accepting strings and doing things with them is
broken for the reasons you mentioned and there should be a deprecation
warning about this.  But not heeding the user values is silly and you
should still set those vanity values for the sake of vanity itself.

Cheers





  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-21  5:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-20 16:45 [bug#62298] [PATCH 0/8] Extensible define-configuration & mpd/mympd service fixes Bruno Victal
2023-03-20 17:07 ` [bug#62298] [PATCH 1/8] services: configuration: Add user-defined sanitizer support Bruno Victal
2023-03-20 19:43   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-03-20 17:07 ` [bug#62298] [PATCH 2/8] services: replace bare serializers with (serializer ...) Bruno Victal
2023-03-20 17:07 ` [bug#62298] [PATCH 3/8] services: audio: remove redundant list-of-string? predicate Bruno Victal
2023-03-20 17:07 ` [bug#62298] [PATCH 4/8] services: mympd: Require 'syslog service when configured to log to syslog Bruno Victal
2023-03-20 17:07 ` [bug#62298] [PATCH 5/8] services: mpd: Fix unintentional API breakage for mixer-type field Bruno Victal
2023-03-20 17:07 ` [bug#62298] [PATCH 6/8] services: mpd: Set PulseAudio related variables as default value for environment-variables field Bruno Victal
2023-03-20 17:07 ` [bug#62298] [PATCH 7/8] services: mpd: Use user-account (resp. user-group) for user (resp. group) fields Bruno Victal
2023-03-20 19:33   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-03-21  2:10     ` Bruno Victal
2023-03-21  5:30       ` Liliana Marie Prikler [this message]
2023-03-20 17:07 ` [bug#62298] [PATCH 8/8] services: mympd: " Bruno Victal
2023-03-20 19:33   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-03-23 15:02 ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v2 1/8] services: configuration: Add user-defined sanitizer support Bruno Victal
2023-03-23 15:02   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v2 2/8] services: replace bare serializers with (serializer ...) Bruno Victal
2023-03-24 14:28     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-23 15:02   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v2 3/8] services: audio: remove redundant list-of-string? predicate Bruno Victal
2023-03-23 15:02   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v2 4/8] services: mympd: Require 'syslog service when configured to log to syslog Bruno Victal
2023-03-24 14:32     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-23 15:02   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v2 5/8] services: mpd: Fix unintentional API breakage for mixer-type field Bruno Victal
2023-03-23 15:02   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v2 6/8] services: mpd: Set PulseAudio related variables as default value for environment-variables field Bruno Victal
2023-03-24 18:10     ` bug#62298: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-23 15:02   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v2 7/8] services: mpd: Use user-account (resp. user-group) for user (resp. group) fields Bruno Victal
2023-03-23 18:03     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-03-24 15:31     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-23 15:02   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v2 8/8] services: mympd: " Bruno Victal
2023-03-23 19:19     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-03-25  0:39       ` Bruno Victal
2023-03-24 16:03     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-25  0:33       ` Bruno Victal
2023-03-25  5:21         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-03-23 19:47   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v2 1/8] services: configuration: Add user-defined sanitizer support Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-03-24 14:25   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-24 18:03     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-03-26  2:01       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-03-25  0:46 ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v3 1/5] " Bruno Victal
2023-03-25  0:46   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v3 2/5] services: replace bare serializers with (serializer ...) Bruno Victal
2023-03-25  0:46   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v3 3/5] services: mpd: Fix unintentional API breakage for mixer-type field Bruno Victal
2023-03-25  0:46   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v3 4/5] services: mpd: Use user-account (resp. user-group) for user (resp. group) fields Bruno Victal
2023-03-25  0:46   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v3 5/5] services: mympd: " Bruno Victal
2023-03-26 18:41 ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v4 1/5] services: configuration: Add user-defined sanitizer support Bruno Victal
2023-03-26 18:41   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v4 2/5] services: replace bare serializers with (serializer ...) Bruno Victal
2023-03-26 18:41   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v4 3/5] services: mpd: Fix unintentional API breakage for mixer-type field Bruno Victal
2023-03-26 18:41   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v4 4/5] services: mpd: Use user-account (resp. user-group) for user (resp. group) fields Bruno Victal
2023-03-26 18:41   ` [bug#62298] [PATCH v4 5/5] services: mympd: " Bruno Victal
2023-04-02 10:46   ` bug#62298: [PATCH v4 1/5] services: configuration: Add user-defined sanitizer support Liliana Marie Prikler

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