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From: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
To: Leo Prikler <leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Idea: a meta language for (language) build systems - npm, Racket, Rust cargo
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 10:48:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210615084845.jm45hyviblduvzl7@thebird.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35dd481ec1c8c2e8f1f65b74bcdbe1980da3b5b0.camel@student.tugraz.at>

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 12:04:59AM +0200, Leo Prikler wrote:
> Soon: There are 15 competing build systems

Very true ;)

> Guix as a build system, with or without GWL, is fine as long as it's
> just fun and games, but it comes with the serious downside of not being
> compatible with any other distro out there.  Perhaps that works out for

Maybe. I can still support cargo - just don't want to deal with it...
A Debian target would not be too hard.

> What we need in order to make packages written in Rust less of a PITA
> is more widespread usage of generic build systems like make or meson. 
> We won't get there with cargo cult programming.  On a somewhat related
> note, I find it amusing, that Rust folk dread the usage of Rust without
> cargo, as if the Rust standard library on its own was somehow worthless
> or something :P

Meson may be good enough (indeed). I have one project that uses meson
effectively and it is not bad. But I had to look up a lot of things -
it is sometimes counterintuitive and hardly simple. Sure beats cmake
and autotools. Still, it could be simpler.

Pj.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-15  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-30  8:38 Idea: a meta language for (language) build systems - npm, Racket, Rust cargo Pjotr Prins
2021-05-30 19:17 ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-05-31 17:47   ` Pjotr Prins
2021-06-01  5:50     ` Adriano Peluso
2021-06-01  6:24     ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-01  7:23       ` Pjotr Prins
2021-06-01  8:12         ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-01  8:59       ` Adriano Peluso
2021-06-01  9:11         ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-01 10:52           ` Adriano Peluso
2021-06-01 11:03             ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-01 11:28               ` Adriano Peluso
2021-06-01 15:22                 ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-01  7:56     ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-06-01 23:35       ` Joshua Branson
2021-06-08 13:11     ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-06-14 14:29       ` Pjotr Prins
2021-06-14 22:04         ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-15  8:48           ` Pjotr Prins [this message]
2021-06-15 10:08           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2021-06-20 15:46         ` Ludovic Courtès

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