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From: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Cuirass news
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 23:23:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180128232343.152cfe86@scratchpost.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fu6pzmdl.fsf@gnu.org>

Hi Ludo,

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 22:47:34 +0100
ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote:

> I’ve already applied two commits in civodul/guile-sqlite3.  I think the
> statement cache requires some more work though (see below).

Nice.

> > If that's OK I'll replace the reference in guix-master, or we could do a
> > pull request to the civodul repository.  
> 
> I think we should stick to a single repo for guile-sqlite3, though it
> prolly shouldn’t be called “civodul/”.  Perhaps you can create
> guile-sqlite3/guile-sqlite3 and add the two of us plus Andy there for a
> start?

Hmm, should I create a new user account on notabug for that?

> The problem is that interned symbols are potentially not GC’d (though I
> think with Guile 2.2 and its weak sets they may be subject to GC.)

Too bad.  If that's the case it's not as good as it could be.

> The other issue is that we’d still be caching potentially a lot more
> than needed.  For instance, we don’t know whether a statement is a
> one-off statement (used only once, for instance because it’s derived
> from user parameters passed through the HTTP API or something), 

Well, that shouldn't happen because it would allow SQL injection.

I usually write filters like (:parameter IS NULL OR (foo = :parameter))
so that the SQL text doesn't change.

On the other hand, if only the parameter values change it will reuse the
same statement.

> Thinking more about it, I’m inclined to not try to be smart and instead
> let users explicitly ask for caching when they want to.

Whatever else, I think it would be good to actually use prepared statements
for what they are for ;-)

That they prevent sql injection is a nice bonus but what they are supposed to
do is prevent the database engine from having to parse text and build a query
plan every time someone changes one bit somewhere.

So I'm still for "caching" those.  I've left sqlite-exec inside guix-cuirass
rather than guile-sqlite3 so that the user of the guile-sqlite3 can decide
caching, among other things.

We could also have two macros, sqlite-exec-reuse and sqlite-exec
(right now it decides that implicitly by whether the SQL text is a string
literal or not - I think in practise that's what cuirass will always do).

The stuff that's in dannym guile-sqlite3 has no new effect if you don't use
sqlite-prepare* (note star) - so it should be quite conservative already.

sqlite-prepare* is written in a way that it always caches - I purposefully
left the two other cases with non-literal strings out.  So you can't
sqlite-prepare* with a non-literal string.
And maybe also remove the arg bindings from in there.

Then the new API would be: sqlite-prepare for new prepared statements,
sqlite-prepare* for caching prepared statements.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-28 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-24 22:12 Cuirass news Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-25 10:55 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2018-01-25 10:59   ` Mathieu Othacehe
2018-01-25 13:09     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-26 14:30       ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-27 16:01         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-27 17:18           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-27 19:12             ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-28 21:47             ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-28 22:23               ` Danny Milosavljevic [this message]
2018-01-29  9:57               ` Andy Wingo
2018-02-08 13:37             ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-08 16:29               ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-08 22:21                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-08 23:05                   ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-09  6:17                     ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-02-09  9:41                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-09 11:29                       ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-09 16:53                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-09 17:06                           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-10 11:18                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-13  9:12                               ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-14 13:43                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-14 23:17                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-19 15:35                                     ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-19 15:35                                       ` [PATCH] database: Simplify 'db-get-builds' Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-19 17:52                                       ` [PATCH] database: db-get-builds: Inline output selection Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-19 22:08                                       ` Cuirass news Danny Milosavljevic
2018-03-02 13:21                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-02 22:06                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-02 23:29                                           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-14 23:21                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-25 21:06 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-26 11:12   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-25 22:28 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-26 10:47   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-28 12:33     ` Cuirass frontend Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-29 17:42       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-26  0:46 ` Cuirass news Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-27 17:27   ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-28 21:48     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-26 17:55 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen

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