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From: John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>,
	Workgroup for fully free GNU/Linux distributions
	<gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org>,
	Christopher Howard <christopher@alaskasi.com>
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Free firmware - A redefinition of the term and a new metric for it's measurement.
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 09:42:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170213084231.GA16213@jocasta.intra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874lzy4lq2.fsf@gmail.com>

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On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 11:02:29PM -0800, Maxim Cournoyer wrote:
     Hi,
     
     Christopher Howard <christopher@alaskasi.com> writes:
     
     > On 02/10/2017 08:31 AM, David Craven wrote:
     >> Hi Maxim
     >> 
     >>> +1. I don't see how having blobs helps security at all.
     >> 
     >> Well the problem I was getting at is that things are not as fixed as
     >> they may seem.
     >> Quoting wikipedia:
     >> 
     >>>> Decreasing cost of reprogrammable devices had almost eliminated the market for mask ROM by the year 2000.
     >> 
     >> Translation: ROM is not RO.
     >>
     
     You have a point, although reading the article linked (from Wired), this
     kind of attack requires a lot of effort (to reverse engineer the
     proprietary interfaces used to reprogram the firmware of a HD). At this
     level of seriousness they might as well find other means to get at
     you, such as physically altering one of the device you use without you
     noticing.

If the attacker *is* vendor who supplies the proprietary device then they would
not have to reverse engineer it.
     



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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-13  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-03 14:37 Free firmware - A redefinition of the term and a new metric for it's measurement David Craven
2017-02-03 17:40 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2017-02-03 18:18   ` David Craven
2017-02-03 18:44     ` Christopher Howard
2017-02-03 20:12       ` David Craven
2017-02-05 22:53       ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Maxim Cournoyer
2017-02-10 17:31         ` David Craven
2017-02-10 18:21           ` Christopher Howard
2017-02-13  7:02             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2017-02-13  8:42               ` John Darrington [this message]
2017-02-13 19:24                 ` David Craven
2017-02-13 21:21                   ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-13 22:48                     ` David Craven
2017-02-14  6:55                   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2017-02-14 10:41                     ` [GNU-linux-libre] " David Craven
2017-02-14 17:47                       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2017-02-14 12:15 ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2017-02-14 18:43   ` [GNU-linux-libre] " David Craven
2017-02-14 20:11     ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2017-02-14 20:47       ` David Craven
2017-02-14 20:57         ` Christopher Howard
2017-02-14 21:01           ` David Craven
2017-02-14 21:13             ` [GNU-linux-libre] " David Craven
2017-02-20  7:50     ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2017-02-21 12:15       ` David Craven

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