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From: Alexey Abramov <levenson@mmer.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>, "Ricardo Wurmus" <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: <guix-devel@gnu.org>, <goodoldpaul@autistici.org>
Subject: Re: OCI-backed Guix System Services
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2023 18:54:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18af14fa7e0.280a.da5dc967fe079fb386b94d5b80162893@mmer.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v8bphyah.fsf@gnu.org>


I am playing with Talos right now, which is a Kubernetes Linux 
distribution. It doesn't provide any ssh access. You can configure it using 
api only.

I am wondering if anyone wants to work (or working) on similar thing using 
Guix, Shepherd and Goblins.

It would be great to just boot guix with shepherd and program the system 
using scheme.

I haven't tested swineherd yet though.

On October 2, 2023 4:52:57 PM Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:
>
>>> I was recently inspired from Nix's oci-container feature and wrote a thin 
>>> wrapper around the docker CLI to enable the management of
>>> docker containers through Shepherd [0]. This enables handling of non 
>>> packaged services through guix system reconfigure and herd
>>> start/stop/status .
>>
>> Neat!
>>
>>> To conclude, I'm not advocating for adding OCI-backed services to Guix 
>>> mainstream: in my opinion they should be bootstrapped and
>>> built from source, but I believe the actual "backend" implementation for 
>>> such services could be useful to have in Guix. What do you
>>> think?
>>
>> I think this could still be a valuable addition to Guix, because it
>> integrates with Shepherd and thus unifies management of system services
>> independent of whether they came from Guix or from elsewhere.
>
> I agree, this would be useful to many people I’m sure, in particular to
> anyone who doesn’t dare switch to Guix System out of fear of not finding
> a specific service.
>
> If there’s a way this could be generalized so others can use it for
> daemons other than Grafana, that’d be great.
>
> Ludo’.





      reply	other threads:[~2023-10-02 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-20 14:47 OCI-backed Guix System Services paul
2023-09-20 22:12 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-09-20 23:10   ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-09-22 15:23   ` paul
2023-10-02 14:52   ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-02 16:54     ` Alexey Abramov [this message]

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