torbrowser

torbrowser

[Gottfried]

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Hi Guix,

I saw that you offer "torbrowser" as a own package.

Does that mean there is a new browser, and it is the torbrowser.

What is then the difference between icecat working over the torbrowser 
and the torbrowser itself?

Is it so that in icecat I can install several add-ons, but in torbrowser 
no ones or only some? Is that the main difference.

Sorry, for asking basic questions.
I prefer to ask instead of guessing.


Kind regards

Gottfried

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Re: torbrowser

[Clément Lassieur]

Hi,

On Thu, Dec 28 2023, Gottfried wrote:

> I saw that you offer "torbrowser" as a own package.
>
> Does that mean there is a new browser, and it is the torbrowser.

Yes, it is a new browser, the Tor Browser.

> What is then the difference between icecat working over the torbrowser and the
> torbrowser itself?

I guess you meant "icecat working over tor".

The difference is that a site can identify you based on your browser
settings easily if your browser is Icecat, whereas it's much harder if
it's Tor Browser.  You can check https://coveryourtracks.eff.org to see
if browser settings make you unique.

(Also Tor Browser makes it easy to start the Tor network.)

> Is it so that in icecat I can install several add-ons, but in torbrowser no
> ones or only some? Is that the main difference.

You can install add-ons on both browser, although it's discouraged to do
so with Tor Browser because add-ons can increase your footprint and thus
reduce your online anonymity.

> Sorry, for asking basic questions.
> I prefer to ask instead of guessing.

No problem, feel free to ask anything.

Clément

torbrowser

[Gottfried]

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Hi Guix,

I added "torbrowser" to my icecat.scm

;; Icecat Manifest
(specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium" "torbrowser"))


in my icecat profile


and updated my profile

but it didn't download and install torbrowser.



May be there is still a problem.

Any hint available?


If I look up torbrowser in Guix packages
and klick on the torbrowser

it said

Couldn't find any package named torbrowser 115.6.0esr-13.0-1-build2. But 
you can do the following:

Ask around if there's anyone working on packaging it (see Guix 
communication channels).
Take this opportunity to learn how to package things for Guix (see how 
to submit packages to Guix).

Kind regards

Gottfried


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Re: torbrowser

[Clément Lassieur]

Hi, which guix are you using? (the sha?  What is the output of "guix
--version"?)

Re: torbrowser

[Gottfried]

 Hi Guix,

I am using 

guix bc509aba838780502b83f7fc3d2aee72903656f2

Am 28.12.2023 15:40 schrieb Clément Lassieur: 

> Hi, which guix are you using? (the sha? What is the output of "guix
> --version"?)
 

Re: torbrowser

[Clément Lassieur]

Hi,

> I added "torbrowser" to my icecat.scm
>
> ;; Icecat Manifest
> (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium" "torbrowser"))
>
>
> in my icecat profile
>
>
> and updated my profile

How?

> but it didn't download and install torbrowser.

This is weird, can you show the commands you typed?
>
> May be there is still a problem.
>
> Any hint available?
>
>
> If I look up torbrowser in Guix packages
> and klick on the torbrowser
>
> it said
>
> Couldn't find any package named torbrowser 115.6.0esr-13.0-1-build2. But you
> can do the following:

This should be fixed now:
https://packages.guix.gnu.org/packages/torbrowser/13.0.8/, the web
interface was probably just taking time refreshing.

Kind regards,
Clément

Re: torbrowser

[Gottfried]

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Hi,

today I can use my laptop with Guix.


Am 11.01.24 um 12:21 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> Hi,
> 
>> I added "torbrowser" to my icecat.scm
>>
>> ;; Icecat Manifest
>> (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium" "torbrowser"))
>>
>>
>> in my icecat profile
>>
>>
>> and updated my profile
> 
> How?
> 

I did it this way:

gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package --upgrade 
--profile=/home/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/guix-profil


I tried again today, but it updated only "icecat, ungoogled-chromium.
Tor-browser was not installed.

I checked the name "torbrowser" again, but this seemed to be not the 
problem.


>> but it didn't download and install torbrowser.
> 
> This is weird, can you show the commands you typed?
>>
>> May be there is still a problem.
>>
>> Any hint available?
>>
>>
>> If I look up torbrowser in Guix packages
>> and klick on the torbrowser
>>
>> it said
>>
>> Couldn't find any package named torbrowser 115.6.0esr-13.0-1-build2. But you
>> can do the following:
> 
> This should be fixed now:
> https://packages.guix.gnu.org/packages/torbrowser/13.0.8/, the web
> interface was probably just taking time refreshing.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Clément

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Kind regards and thanks for any help

Gottfried



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Re: torbrowser

[Clément Lassieur]

Hello!

On Thu, Jan 18 2024, Gottfried wrote:

>>> I added "torbrowser" to my icecat.scm
>>>
>>> ;; Icecat Manifest
>>> (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium" "torbrowser"))
>
> I did it this way:
>
> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package --upgrade
> --profile=/home/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/guix-profil
>
> I tried again today, but it updated only "icecat, ungoogled-chromium.
> Tor-browser was not installed.

Can you try this:

guix package -m icecat.scm

?

Clément

Re: torbrowser

[Clément Lassieur]

On Thu, Jan 18 2024, Gottfried wrote:

> Am 18.01.24 um 13:02 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
>> Hello!
>> On Thu, Jan 18 2024, Gottfried wrote:
>> 
>>>>> I added "torbrowser" to my icecat.scm
>>>>>
>>>>> ;; Icecat Manifest
>>>>> (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium" "torbrowser"))
>>>
>>> I did it this way:
>>>
>>> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package --upgrade
>>> --profile=/home/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/guix-profil
>>>
>>> I tried again today, but it updated only "icecat, ungoogled-chromium.
>>> Tor-browser was not installed.
>> Can you try this:
>> guix package -m icecat.scm
>> ?
>> Clément
>
>
>
> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package -m icecat.scm~
> guix package: Fehler: „icecat.scm~“ konnte nicht geladen werden:
> ice-9/boot-9.scm:2190:9: In procedure primitive-load-path: Unable to find file
> "guix/icecat.scm~" in load path
>
>
> I have just running "guix confic.scm..."
> can this be the reason that it cant find "icecat.scm"?

I thought ‘icecat.scm’ was your manifest file.

Can you run “guix package -m <your manifest file>”

<your manifest file> is the file that contains

    (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium" "torbrowser"))

Re: torbrowser

[Gottfried]

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Am 18.01.24 um 13:02 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> Hello!
> 
> On Thu, Jan 18 2024, Gottfried wrote:
> 
>>>> I added "torbrowser" to my icecat.scm
>>>>
>>>> ;; Icecat Manifest
>>>> (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium" "torbrowser"))
>>
>> I did it this way:
>>
>> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package --upgrade
>> --profile=/home/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/guix-profil
>>
>> I tried again today, but it updated only "icecat, ungoogled-chromium.
>> Tor-browser was not installed.
> 
> Can you try this:
> 
> guix package -m icecat.scm
> 
> ?
> 
> Clément



gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package -m icecat.scm~
guix package: Fehler: „icecat.scm~“ konnte nicht geladen werden:
ice-9/boot-9.scm:2190:9: In procedure primitive-load-path: Unable to 
find file "guix/icecat.scm~" in load path


I have just running "guix confic.scm..."
can this be the reason that it cant find "icecat.scm"?
-- 
Kind regards

Gottfried



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Re: torbrowser

[Clément Lassieur]

so what is the file that contains

    ;; Icecat Manifest
    (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium" "torbrowser"))

?

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 2:42 PM, Gottfried wrote:
> Am 18.01.24 um 15:20 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> > does the file exist?
> > 
> > What is the output of:
> > 
> >      cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> 
> 
> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> cat: gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm: No such file or directory
> 
> 
> > 
> > And what is the output of:
> > 
> >      guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> > 
> 
> 
> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> guix package: error: failed to load 'gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm':
> ice-9/boot-9.scm:2190:9: In procedure primitive-load-path: Unable to 
> find file "guix/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm" in load path
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Gottfried
> 
> 
> *Attachments:*
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>  • OpenPGP_signature

Re: torbrowser

[Gottfried]

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Am 18.01.24 um 15:20 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> does the file exist?
> 
> What is the output of:
> 
>      cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm


gfp@Tuxedo ~$ cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
cat: gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm: No such file or directory


> 
> And what is the output of:
> 
>      guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> 


gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
guix package: error: failed to load 'gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm':
ice-9/boot-9.scm:2190:9: In procedure primitive-load-path: Unable to 
find file "guix/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm" in load path

Kind regards

Gottfried

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Re: torbrowser

[Clément Lassieur]

No problem

Maybe you are not in the good place

can you show the output of:

    pwd

?

Also, where is "gfp" located?

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 3:01 PM, Gottfried wrote:
> Am 18.01.24 um 15:39 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> > so what is the file that contains
> > 
> >      ;; Icecat Manifest
> >      (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium" 
> > "torbrowser"))
> > 
> 
> The file is :
> 
> icecat.scm
> 
> it is located unter:
> 
> gfp/Projekte/Icecat/
> 
> 
> May be I don't understand something.
> 
> Sorry for the inconvenience.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 2:42 PM, Gottfried wrote:
> >> Am 18.01.24 um 15:20 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> >> > does the file exist?
> >> >
> >> > What is the output of:
> >> >
> >> >      cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> >>
> >>
> >> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> >> cat: gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm: No such file or directory
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > And what is the output of:
> >> >
> >> >      guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> >> guix package: error: failed to load 'gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm':
> >> ice-9/boot-9.scm:2190:9: In procedure primitive-load-path: Unable to
> >> find file "guix/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm" in load path
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Gottfried
> >>
> >>
> >> *Attachments:*
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> >>   * OpenPGP_signature
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Kind regards
> 
> Gottfried
> 
> 
> 
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Re: torbrowser

[Gottfried]

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Am 18.01.24 um 15:39 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> so what is the file that contains
> 
>      ;; Icecat Manifest
>      (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium" 
> "torbrowser"))
> 

The file is :

icecat.scm

it is located unter:

gfp/Projekte/Icecat/


May be I don't understand something.

Sorry for the inconvenience.





> 
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 2:42 PM, Gottfried wrote:
>> Am 18.01.24 um 15:20 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
>> > does the file exist?
>> >
>> > What is the output of:
>> >
>> >      cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>>
>>
>> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>> cat: gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm: No such file or directory
>>
>>
>> >
>> > And what is the output of:
>> >
>> >      guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>> >
>>
>>
>> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>> guix package: error: failed to load 'gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm':
>> ice-9/boot-9.scm:2190:9: In procedure primitive-load-path: Unable to
>> find file "guix/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm" in load path
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Gottfried
>>
>>
>> *Attachments:*
>>
>>   * OpenPGP_0x61FAF349C9FB7F94.asc
>>   * OpenPGP_signature
> 

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Kind regards

Gottfried


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Re: torbrowser

[Gottfried]

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Am 1/18/24 um 15:57 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> No problem
> 
> Maybe you are not in the good place
> 
> can you show the output of:
> 
>      pwd


gfp@Tuxedo ~$ pwd
/home/gfp


> Also, where is "gfp" located?

gfp is my user name.
It is located in /home


thanks for help

Kind regards

  Gottfried




> 
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 3:01 PM, Gottfried wrote:
>> Am 18.01.24 um 15:39 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
>> > so what is the file that contains
>> >
>> >      ;; Icecat Manifest
>> >      (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium"
>> > "torbrowser"))
>> >
>>
>> The file is :
>>
>> icecat.scm
>>
>> it is located unter:
>>
>> gfp/Projekte/Icecat/
>>
>>
>> May be I don't understand something.
>>
>> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 2:42 PM, Gottfried wrote:
>> >> Am 18.01.24 um 15:20 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
>> >> > does the file exist?
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the output of:
>> >> >
>> >> >      cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>> >> cat: gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm: No such file or directory
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > And what is the output of:
>> >> >
>> >> >      guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>> >> guix package: error: failed to load 'gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm':
>> >> ice-9/boot-9.scm:2190:9: In procedure primitive-load-path: Unable to
>> >> find file "guix/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm" in load path
>> >>

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Re: torbrowser

[Gottfried]

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Hi Clement,

now after updating my manifest it worked:
It downloaded torbrowser additional to icecat and ungoogled-chromium


gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package -p /home/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/guix-profil -m 
/home/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
Die folgenden Pakete werden installiert:
    icecat             115.7.0-guix0-preview1
    torbrowser         13.0.9
    ungoogled-chromium 112.0.5615.165-1

I am happy
thanks for your help

Kind regards

Gottfried


Am 18.01.24 um 15:57 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> No problem
> 
> Maybe you are not in the good place
> 
> can you show the output of:
> 
>      pwd
> 
> ?
> 
> Also, where is "gfp" located?
> 
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 3:01 PM, Gottfried wrote:
>> Am 18.01.24 um 15:39 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
>> > so what is the file that contains
>> >
>> >      ;; Icecat Manifest
>> >      (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium"
>> > "torbrowser"))
>> >
>>
>> The file is :
>>
>> icecat.scm
>>
>> it is located unter:
>>
>> gfp/Projekte/Icecat/
>>
>>
>> May be I don't understand something.
>>
>> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 2:42 PM, Gottfried wrote:
>> >> Am 18.01.24 um 15:20 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
>> >> > does the file exist?
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the output of:
>> >> >
>> >> >      cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>> >> cat: gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm: No such file or directory
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > And what is the output of:
>> >> >
>> >> >      guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
>> >> guix package: error: failed to load 'gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm':
>> >> ice-9/boot-9.scm:2190:9: In procedure primitive-load-path: Unable to
>> >> find file "guix/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm" in load path
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards
>> >>
>> >> Gottfried
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *Attachments:*
>> >>
>> >>   * OpenPGP_0x61FAF349C9FB7F94.asc
>> >>   * OpenPGP_signature
>> >
>>
>> -- 
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Gottfried
>>
>>
>>
>> *Attachments:*
>>
>>   * OpenPGP_0x61FAF349C9FB7F94.asc
>>   * OpenPGP_signature
> 

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Re: torbrowser

[Clément Lassieur]

Hi Gottfried,

This is great!  Thanks for letting me know.

Kind regards,
Clément

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, at 11:36 AM, Gottfried wrote:
> Hi Clement,
> 
> now after updating my manifest it worked:
> It downloaded torbrowser additional to icecat and ungoogled-chromium
> 
> 
> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package -p /home/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/guix-profil -m 
> /home/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> Die folgenden Pakete werden installiert:
>     icecat             115.7.0-guix0-preview1
>     torbrowser         13.0.9
>     ungoogled-chromium 112.0.5615.165-1
> 
> I am happy
> thanks for your help
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Gottfried
> 
> 
> Am 18.01.24 um 15:57 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> > No problem
> > 
> > Maybe you are not in the good place
> > 
> > can you show the output of:
> > 
> >      pwd
> > 
> > ?
> > 
> > Also, where is "gfp" located?
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 3:01 PM, Gottfried wrote:
> >> Am 18.01.24 um 15:39 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> >> > so what is the file that contains
> >> >
> >> >      ;; Icecat Manifest
> >> >      (specifications->manifest '("icecat" "ungoogled-chromium"
> >> > "torbrowser"))
> >> >
> >>
> >> The file is :
> >>
> >> icecat.scm
> >>
> >> it is located unter:
> >>
> >> gfp/Projekte/Icecat/
> >>
> >>
> >> May be I don't understand something.
> >>
> >> Sorry for the inconvenience.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 2:42 PM, Gottfried wrote:
> >> >> Am 18.01.24 um 15:20 schrieb Clément Lassieur:
> >> >> > does the file exist?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What is the output of:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >      cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ cat gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> >> >> cat: gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm: No such file or directory
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > And what is the output of:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >      guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ guix package -m gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm
> >> >> guix package: error: failed to load 'gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm':
> >> >> ice-9/boot-9.scm:2190:9: In procedure primitive-load-path: Unable to
> >> >> find file "guix/gfp/Projekte/Icecat/icecat.scm" in load path
> >> >>
> >> >> Kind regards
> >> >>
> >> >> Gottfried
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> *Attachments:*
> >> >>
> >> >>   * OpenPGP_0x61FAF349C9FB7F94.asc
> >> >>   * OpenPGP_signature
> >> >
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Gottfried
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Attachments:*
> >>
> >>   * OpenPGP_0x61FAF349C9FB7F94.asc
> >>   * OpenPGP_signature
> > 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> *Attachments:*
>  • OpenPGP_0x61FAF349C9FB7F94.asc
>  • OpenPGP_signature