From: Edouard Klein <edou@rdklein.fr>
To: Joshua Branson <jbranso@dismail.de>
Cc: help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: package manager guix on Windows and OSX
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 22:05:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87czs7844u.fsf@rdklein.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871r8px48s.fsf@dismail.de>
>
> Why Plan 9? May I ask?
Plan 9 is awesome. What the whole industry is barely managing to achieve
with containers and VMs, Guix does somewhat correctly with namespaces,
but Plan 9 had all this in its DNA, in a cleaner implementation 30
years ago !
By default, a process in Plan 9 only has a partial view of the system,
and is truly isolated from the other processes. No network, user,
filesytem namespace bullshit, everything (yes everything is a file), so
there is only one namespace, the filesystem namespace, and you mount
only what your process needs to see.
e.g . your process does not need to access the internet, then don't mount
/net !
e.t. your process need to access only one host: the connect to the host,
and mount the relevant /net/tcp/n/ directory, but not /net/tcp/clone,
and so your process will not be able to connect anywhere else !
Also, any file could be managed by a process running on another machine,
transparently.
Anyway, Guix reminds me of Plan9 because it achieves like 10% of what
Plan9 could do, but on a Kernel that actually runs on modern hardware,
and with a sane API, and so it's 10 times better than anything else. Yet
I wish Linux was more plan9ish.
> And I do really like the Hurd, but I use the
> dvorak keyboard layout. My understanding is that the Hurd does not
> support variant keyboard layouts yet... :(
I don't think that the kernel is the part where your keyboard layout is
implemented, but I don't know the Hurd at all so I may well
>
> I actually think that the Guix developers may want to consider a port to
> the OpenBSD kernel, provided that the Hyperbola developers get
> HyperbolaBSD working. Though I guess the Debian guys sort of did
> already. :)
OpenBSD is really good too. The pledge() function is a really nice API
that is much easier to use than the mess we got on Linux...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-27 20:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-24 18:09 package manager guix on Windows and OSX Patricio Martínez
2021-06-24 19:07 ` jbranso
2021-06-25 12:36 ` Edouard Klein
2021-06-25 17:07 ` Joshua Branson
2021-06-25 17:50 ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-06-25 20:56 ` jbranso
2021-06-25 23:18 ` indieterminacy
2021-06-26 0:25 ` jbranso
2021-06-26 8:47 ` indieterminacy
2021-06-27 20:05 ` Edouard Klein [this message]
2021-06-29 2:21 ` maxxcan
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