Re: Musescore and other music notation packages like Lilypond, Frescobaldi, Denemo, Rosegarden

[Gottfried <gottfried@posteo.de>]

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Hi,

thank you very much.
You can explain very well. So I have learned a lot.
I appreciate your endeavouring.

I myself was wondering why
> I can’t create a document with:
>>> lilypond THE_FILENAME.ly

this should create a document,
but I believed, what I read.
I guess Arne wanted to say something else and I missunderstood him.

Because when I tried this command, it really made a pdf.
I was wondering, but it was like this.

Now I tried again to:

guix shell lilypond nano mercurial timidity++
and with
cd draketos-songbook
I entered the songbook
and I saw the songs Arne had created.
I saved one song
delfini-tune.ly
delfini-tune.midi

and I was able to save the songbook in my home folder.

I think my mistake was that I was already in the songbook folder
and I wanted to copy the song book folder and not a file in the songbook 
folder.
Now everything went well except the fact I can’t here the voice of the 
midi file.

I have got problems with midi.
my programmes vlc and audacious, audacity can play the midi file
but I have no voice.
It is silent even I have put it to the loudest possible output.


Kind regards

Gottfried





Am 21.03.23 um 12:06 schrieb Martin Castillo:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm just leaving a simle note here.
> 
> Am 21.03.23 um 10:02 schrieb Gottfried:
>> I can’t create a document with:
>> lilypond THE_FILENAME.ly
> 
> And you are not supposed to. lilypond is not a program to create or edit 
> .ly files. It is only there to read those files and produce pdfs and 
> midi files.
> 
> The command
> lilypond THE_FILENAME.ly
> is used to create a pdf using an existing file named THE_FILENAME.ly
> as input!
> 
> Here is a simple figure. Programs are inside bars (|program|) and take 
> input from the left and output to the right.
> 
> With frescobaldi the data flow looked something like this
> |frescobaldi| -> THE_FILENAME.ly -> |lilypond| -> THE_FILENAME.pdf
> where the middle parts were invisible to you, because frescobaldi was 
> made that way, to hide that part. You just interacted with frescobaldi 
> and used the pdf at the end.
> 
> If you change away from frescobaldi, the middle part becomes visible 
> (i.e. you have to "do more"):
> |nano       | -> THE_FILENAME.ly -> |lilypond| -> THE_FILENAME.pdf
> 
> Now you have to create the file THE_FILENAME.ly explicitly yourself with 
> some program, possibly nano, and then call lilypond THE_FILENAME.ly so 
> that lilypond creates the pdf file from THE_FILENAME.ly.
> 
> Now you can replace nano by your favourite (working) editor, so once the 
> gtk stuff is fixed, you may even use gedit in the future.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
>  > with which command can I copy the songbook from this guix shell into 
> my home folder?
> 
> Do you mean the pdf?
> I'd guess it already is in your home folder: If you just started your 
> terminal before executing
>  guix shell lilypond nano mercurial timidity++ and the other commands,
> THE_FILENAME.ly should be in your home folder (/home/gfp I guess). And 
> executing
> lilypond THE_FILENAME.ly creates the pdf file in the same folder.
> 
> Here is how to copy a file:
> cp source.file dest.file
> 
> Example:
> cp THE_FILENAME.pdf ~/Dokumente/
> 
> This will copy THE_FILENAME.pdf to the Dokumente directory.
> This assumes THE_FILENAME.pdf is in your current working directory of 
> your shell.
> 
> 
> (That just means you're in that directory with the shell. The command 
> `pwd` prints the current working directory. With cd you can change 
> between working directories:
> $ cd   # this changes to your home directory
> $ cd Dokumente  # go into ~/Dokumente, which is Dokumente inside your 
> home directory
> # you can swith down multiple directories at once
> $ cd Musik/Noten # go into ~/Dokument/Musik/Noten
> $ cd ..  # go one level up, back into ~/Dokument/Musik
> $ cd ~/Desktop/Projekt/Musical # jump to Projekt Musical inside Desktop
> $ cd ../.. # go two levels up to Desktop
> 
> Note, these examples assume that those directories even exist. If one of 
> those doesn't, cd will print an Error:
> bash: cd: Musik/Noten: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
> )
> 
> Example 2: If THE_FILENAME.pdf was for example on your desktop, you 
> could do
> cp ~/Desktop/THE_FILENAME.pdf ~/Dokumente/songbook-v0.1.pdf
> to copy it to Dokumente and give it a different name at once.
> 
> Martin

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