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From: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>,
	Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@ist.tugraz.at>
Cc: 54539@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#54539] [PATCH 0/6] Start breaking up import cycles
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 18:46:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca9bff4c2fd315de6f840eb11ce3c9e0b7951fb8.camel@telenet.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ3okZ3VLMiv+Wji5iXOVe2xvFcRXNAifSzO=1n+6QfUgHqu6Q@mail.gmail.com>

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zimoun schreef op vr 25-03-2022 om 18:05 [+0100]:
> To be honest, I am not sure to understand the aim of reorganizing the
> modules... I mean, to me, the only important metrics is the
> performance of the end-user.  If there is no performance improvement
> when cutting cycle, then it appears to me pointless to cut cycles. :-)

FWIW, there are three goals here:

  * Allowing writing stuff like

    (use-modules (gnu packages ncurses))
    (package
      (name "some-terminal-app")
      [...]
      ;; Work-around the ‘search path of dependencies not propagated’ bug.
      (native-search-paths (package-native-search-paths ncurses)))

    without getting 'unbound variable' errors.
    Alternatively, the search-path-specification could be defined in,
    say, (guix search-paths) next to $PATH but that proposal seems
    to have been rejected.

  * Making "compute-guix-derivation" faster by reducing the number of
    (uncompiled!) package module files it needs to load.
    
  * Eventually making the ‘incremental compilation’ by fine-grained derivations
    proposal from the ‘Faster "guix pull" by incremental compilation and
    non-circular modules?’ thread [0] feasible.

As a side benefit, it makes the output of "guix graph --type=module foo"
less cluttered and presumably reduces the module closure (a likely
side-effect of breaking cycles), making "guix show foo" (*) a bit faster.

(*) FWIW, on my machine, "guix show guix" takes 1.6s.

[0]: <https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2022-02/msg00193.html>

Greetings,
Maxime.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-25 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-23 18:46 [bug#54539] [PATCH 0/6] Start breaking up import cycles Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48 ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 1/6] gnu: audacity: Move into new module to break cycles Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 2/6] gnu: xsensors: Move to (gnu packages xorg) " Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 3/6] gnu: tlp: Move tlp and friends to new module " Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 4/6] gnu: go-netlink: Move to (gnu packages networking) " Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 5/6] gnu: earlyoom: Avoid importing Goland and Haskelland " Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 6/6] gnu: linux: Avoid importing (gnu packages check) " Maxime Devos
2022-03-25 14:42   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 1/6] gnu: audacity: Move into new module " Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:49 ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 0/6] Start breaking up import cycles Maxime Devos
2022-03-24  7:22   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-24 15:05     ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-24 15:38       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-24 15:46         ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-25 10:26         ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-25 11:47           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-25 14:12             ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-25 14:27               ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-24 16:58     ` zimoun
2022-03-24 18:07       ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-25  8:44         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-25 17:05           ` zimoun
2022-03-25 17:46             ` Maxime Devos [this message]
2022-03-25 19:33               ` zimoun
2022-03-24 17:05     ` Leo Famulari
2022-03-25  8:51       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-24 21:49 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-25 14:36 ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-19  9:17 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-19  9:40   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-27 21:04     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-19 15:31   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-27 20:59     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-09-03 16:43 ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 01/30] gnu: package-management: Autoload unless used by Guix Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 02/30] gnu: gnupg: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 03/30] gnu: base: Autoload (gnu packages algebra) Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 04/30] gnu: admin: Autoload unless used by Guix Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 05/30] gnu: perl: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 06/30] gnu: crypto: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 07/30] gnu: check: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 08/30] gnu: databases: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 09/30] gnu: backup: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 10/30] gnu: guile-xyz: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 11/30] gnu: gettext: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 12/30] gnu: python: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 13/30] gnu: linux: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 14/30] gnu: docbook: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 15/30] gnu: icu4c: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 16/30] gnu: curl: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 17/30] gnu: elf: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 18/30] gnu: compression: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 19/30] gnu: hurd: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 20/30] gnu: algebra: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 21/30] gnu: version-control: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 22/30] gnu: tcl: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 23/30] gnu: fontutils: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 24/30] gnu: web: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 25/30] gnu: xml: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 26/30] gnu: ruby: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 27/30] gnu: python-xyz: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 28/30] gnu: cmake: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 29/30] gnu: documentation: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 30/30] gnu: Autoload more Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:44     ` Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 18:09     ` Maxime Devos

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