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From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@ist.tugraz.at>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>, 54539@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#54539] [PATCH 0/6] Start breaking up import cycles
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 16:38:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <232472b55b6237597e2e304741fd823d205d7972.camel@ist.tugraz.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70b6c5f42bccf41a63acb38922e8d20d4eda3d8a.camel@telenet.be>

Am Donnerstag, dem 24.03.2022 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Maxime Devos:
> Liliana Marie Prikler schreef op do 24-03-2022 om 08:22 [+0100]:
> > I agree that breaking up cycles is a good thing, but I disagree
> > with some of the decisions you've made here.  For instance, I
> > oppose the use of single-package modules, because those more often
> > than not simply clutter the file system.
> 
> There are some other sound applications in (gnu packages audio)
> and (gnu packages music), so maybe I can make a (gnu packages audio-
> apps) module where 'audacity' and other applications like 'calf' can
> reside?
I'm not sure.  IIUC, audio should be for audio systems, codecs, etc.
whereas music sounds like a particular niche containing music players
etc.  Perhaps the cycle could more appropriately been broken by moving
stuff from music to audio?  Alternatively, declaring music as lazy
import as shown in my previous mail might help making these
interdependencies both "cycle-free" and visible.  (I'm pretty sure we
also have "sound" lying around somewhere to put more oil into the
fire.)

> For reducing the contribution of (gnu packages compression) on the
> cycle issue, I've (in not yet submitted patched) separated many
> things into (gnu packages compression-xyz), perhaps I can merge
> (gnu packages patools) into (gnu packages compression-xyz)?
Here too, I think a classification into compression algorithms in
compression and backup/archival tools in another file (we do have
backup IIRC) would make the most sense.  Though obviously, we'd have to
do compression algorithms implemented in Rust in a special rust-
compression file to avoid circles or use the cycle killer lambda trick.
I'm not sure if "compression-xyz" would be a helpful label, and it
might just become the next root of circular dependencies if abused.

Cheers




  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-24 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-23 18:46 [bug#54539] [PATCH 0/6] Start breaking up import cycles Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48 ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 1/6] gnu: audacity: Move into new module to break cycles Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 2/6] gnu: xsensors: Move to (gnu packages xorg) " Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 3/6] gnu: tlp: Move tlp and friends to new module " Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 4/6] gnu: go-netlink: Move to (gnu packages networking) " Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 5/6] gnu: earlyoom: Avoid importing Goland and Haskelland " Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:48   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 6/6] gnu: linux: Avoid importing (gnu packages check) " Maxime Devos
2022-03-25 14:42   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 1/6] gnu: audacity: Move into new module " Maxime Devos
2022-03-23 18:49 ` [bug#54539] [PATCH 0/6] Start breaking up import cycles Maxime Devos
2022-03-24  7:22   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-24 15:05     ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-24 15:38       ` Liliana Marie Prikler [this message]
2022-03-24 15:46         ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-25 10:26         ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-25 11:47           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-25 14:12             ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-25 14:27               ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-24 16:58     ` zimoun
2022-03-24 18:07       ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-25  8:44         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-25 17:05           ` zimoun
2022-03-25 17:46             ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-25 19:33               ` zimoun
2022-03-24 17:05     ` Leo Famulari
2022-03-25  8:51       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-03-24 21:49 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-25 14:36 ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-19  9:17 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-19  9:40   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-27 21:04     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-19 15:31   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-27 20:59     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-09-03 16:43 ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 01/30] gnu: package-management: Autoload unless used by Guix Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 02/30] gnu: gnupg: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 03/30] gnu: base: Autoload (gnu packages algebra) Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 04/30] gnu: admin: Autoload unless used by Guix Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 05/30] gnu: perl: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 06/30] gnu: crypto: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 07/30] gnu: check: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 08/30] gnu: databases: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 09/30] gnu: backup: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 10/30] gnu: guile-xyz: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 11/30] gnu: gettext: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 12/30] gnu: python: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 13/30] gnu: linux: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 14/30] gnu: docbook: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 15/30] gnu: icu4c: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 16/30] gnu: curl: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 17/30] gnu: elf: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 18/30] gnu: compression: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 19/30] gnu: hurd: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 20/30] gnu: algebra: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 21/30] gnu: version-control: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 22/30] gnu: tcl: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 23/30] gnu: fontutils: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 24/30] gnu: web: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 25/30] gnu: xml: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 26/30] gnu: ruby: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 27/30] gnu: python-xyz: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 28/30] gnu: cmake: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 29/30] gnu: documentation: " Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:43   ` [bug#54539] [PATCH v2 30/30] gnu: Autoload more Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 16:44     ` Maxime Devos
2022-09-03 18:09     ` Maxime Devos

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