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From: Philip McGrath <philip@philipmcgrath.com>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>, 55998@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#55998] [PATCH] gnu: Add cctools.
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:06:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4a872dd-eeb3-3a88-32c0-e7c75389b81b@philipmcgrath.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <615afa0c32b6815e175915f9b15c174ab6a81f6a.camel@telenet.be>

On 6/15/22 14:45, Maxime Devos wrote:
> Philip McGrath schreef op wo 15-06-2022 om 13:15 [-0400]:
>> +      (license license:apsl2))))
> 
> Seems to have a problematic cause:
> 
> ‘13.6 Dispute Resolution. Any litigation or other dispute resolution
> between You and Apple relating to this License shall take place in the
> Northern District of California, and You and Apple hereby consent to
> the personal jurisdiction of, and venue in, the state and federal
> courts within that District with respect to this License. The
> application of the United Nations Convention on Contracts for the
> International Sale of Goods is expressly excluded.’
> 
> To me it seems a bit much to require of users _outside_ the US to have
> to subject theirselves to the US whenever Apple feels like litigating.
> 
> (Is such an unilateral requirement even legal?)
> 

I agree that the choice-of-law language is less than friendly to users.

The FSF has issued an opinion [1] that the APSL 2.0 is a free software 
license: they say that "Apple's lawyers worked with the FSF to produce a 
license that would qualify" (after problems with earlier versions of the 
license). They "recommend you do not release new software using this 
license; but it is ok to use and improve software which other people 
release under this license."

IIUC, (guix licenses) only defines FSDG-compatible licenses.

Certainly there are broader community governance questions implicated, 
but I don't think this patch needs to resolve them.

-Philip

[1]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/apsl.html




  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-15 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-15 17:15 [bug#55998] [PATCH] gnu: Add cctools Philip McGrath
2022-06-15 18:32 ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-15 18:45 ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-15 19:06   ` Philip McGrath [this message]
2022-06-15 19:35     ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-15 21:00       ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-15 21:11         ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-15 21:20         ` ( via Guix-patches via
2022-06-15 18:53 ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-15 19:19   ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-15 20:07     ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-17 11:28       ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-15 18:55 ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-15 19:34   ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-15 18:56 ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-15 19:21   ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-15 19:23     ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-17 11:19       ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-15 20:04 ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-17 11:09   ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-19 21:01   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-15 20:17 ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-16 22:29   ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-17  6:14     ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-15 20:18 ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-15 20:23 ` Maxime Devos
2022-06-16 23:29   ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-17 11:51 ` [bug#55998] [PATCH v2] " Philip McGrath
2022-06-19 21:02   ` bug#55998: [PATCH] " Ludovic Courtès

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