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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=philipmcgrath.com header.s=fm2 header.b=fkywY5Qm; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=kpmPrlnc; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.91 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=philipmcgrath.com header.s=fm2 header.b=fkywY5Qm; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=kpmPrlnc; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 998BFE6DD X-Spam-Score: 0.91 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: yVy0ORrmDZVP On 6/15/22 14:45, Maxime Devos wrote: > Philip McGrath schreef op wo 15-06-2022 om 13:15 [-0400]: >> +      (license license:apsl2)))) > > Seems to have a problematic cause: > > ‘13.6 Dispute Resolution. Any litigation or other dispute resolution > between You and Apple relating to this License shall take place in the > Northern District of California, and You and Apple hereby consent to > the personal jurisdiction of, and venue in, the state and federal > courts within that District with respect to this License. The > application of the United Nations Convention on Contracts for the > International Sale of Goods is expressly excluded.’ > > To me it seems a bit much to require of users _outside_ the US to have > to subject theirselves to the US whenever Apple feels like litigating. > > (Is such an unilateral requirement even legal?) > I agree that the choice-of-law language is less than friendly to users. The FSF has issued an opinion [1] that the APSL 2.0 is a free software license: they say that "Apple's lawyers worked with the FSF to produce a license that would qualify" (after problems with earlier versions of the license). They "recommend you do not release new software using this license; but it is ok to use and improve software which other people release under this license." IIUC, (guix licenses) only defines FSDG-compatible licenses. Certainly there are broader community governance questions implicated, but I don't think this patch needs to resolve them. -Philip [1]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/apsl.html