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* [bug#56599] bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things
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@ 2022-08-03 13:43   ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2022-08-03 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Liliana Marie Prikler; +Cc: 54691, Maxime Devos, 56599

Hi,

Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com> skribis:

> Since the addition of fortune-jkirchartz, it is no longer necessary to
> keep around a package that propagates various non-nice things.
> For a complete list, see <https://bugs.gnu.org/54691>.
>
> * gnu/packages/games.scm (fortune-mod): Delete variable.

[...]

> -(define-public fortune-mod

(Perhaps also make “fortune-mod” a deprecated name for
“fortune-jkirchartz”.)

FWIW I’m fine with this change.  Note that there’s also another patch
that removes the ‘off’ database of ‘fortune-mod’¹, though I don’t know
whether that would fully address the issues raised in this thread.  It
will have to closed if/once this series is applied.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

¹ https://issues.guix.gnu.org/56599




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* [bug#56599] bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things
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@ 2022-08-04 15:37         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Guix-patches via
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  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Guix-patches via @ 2022-08-04 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bug-guix, Ludovic Courtès, Liliana Marie Prikler
  Cc: 54691, Maxime Devos, 56599

>To me use of ‘deprecated-package’ in this case is just to ensure that
>users who run ‘guix upgrade’ will transparently get
>‘fortune-jkirchartz’.  I don’t have a strong opinion though.

I believe what Liliana meant is that it's worse to 'transparently' upgrade to a data package that doesn't provide the 'fortune' command at all (or conversely, an implementation of the command that doesn't propagate the actual fortune data), than it is to signal to users through an error message that something's up and they need to stop and think.

(Er, that's a lot more words to put in someone's mouth than I intended to, sorry :-)

I'd suggest a news item but I really don't think this warrants it.

Kind regards,

T G-R

Sent on the go.  Excuse or enjoy my brevity.




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* [bug#56599] bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things
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@ 2022-08-06 23:01               ` bokr
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: bokr @ 2022-08-06 23:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  Cc: Ludovic Courtès, Maxime Devos, Liliana Marie Prikler, 54691, 56599

Hi,

On +2022-08-04 21:58:16 +0200, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix wrote:
> Hi Liliana,
> 
> Liliana Marie Prikler 写道:
> > I'm not saying either option is worse than the other
> 
> I see; thanks for the clarification.
> 
> Then I *will* say that transparently upgrading to a package that does
> nothing is worse than simple removal.
> 
> In fact, all of the proposed hacks are…
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> T G-R

I hope the original is preserved somewhere for history's sake.
So where can I get a copy to see what all the fuss is about? :)
--
Regards,
Bengt Richter
    It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to.
             -- W. C. Fields
    Start every day off with a smile and get it over with.
             -- W. C. Fields






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