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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Cc: 54811@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#54811] [PATCH 0/3] Support socket activation in 'guix publish' and 'guix-daemon'
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:48:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877d7wkl18.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7deae864707fc4aab3eadc28936775c6b920f8f9.camel@telenet.be> (Maxime Devos's message of "Sun, 10 Apr 2022 19:43:48 +0200")

Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès schreef op zo 10-04-2022 om 19:34 [+0200]:

[...]

>> One thing is sure: when ‘--advertise’ is used, we shouldn’t use socket
>> activation or nothing will be advertised.  Is that what you mean?
>
> No, how would socket activation prevent advertising?

As currently implemented in the Shepherd, socket activation means that
the process is started lazily, the first time a connection request is
made.  If the ‘guix publish’ process isn’t started, then DNS-SD
publication doesn’t happen.

> How would guile- avahi even know that we are doing socket activation?
>
> What I mean was:
>
>   * if guile-avahi sends messages to the network by itself,
>     then it cannot be run inside a networkless container,
>     otherwise only the container's loopback would receive them.
>
>   * if guile-avahi talks to some daemon via a unix domain socket,
>     then no problem

Guile-Avahi talks to avahi-daemon over a Unix-domain socket;
avahi-daemon then does the actual mDNS/DNS-SD publication.

>   * IIUC, previously, "guix publish" could not be run inside a network
>     container, because it tried to listen by itself (and listening
>     to a container's own loopback isn't useful).
>
>   * but in case of socket activation, this problem disappears

Well, shepherd, as an ordinary process in the container, would also try
to listen by itself.  But I think that’s fine; worst thing is nobody
ever connects to that socket, but that’s ok, no?

>   * bonus: except possibly for the secret key material, "guix publish"
>     does not have to be started  as root anymore even if uses a
>     reserved port such as port 80 (assuming socket activation is used).

But it does need to access the secret key…

Ludo’.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-11  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-09  9:12 [bug#54811] [PATCH 0/3] Support socket activation in 'guix publish' and 'guix-daemon' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-09  9:13 ` [bug#54811] [PATCH 1/3] publish: Use SRFI-71 instead of SRFI-11 Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-09  9:13   ` [bug#54811] [PATCH 2/3] publish: Support systemd-style socket activation Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-09  9:20     ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-14 12:51       ` bug#54811: [PATCH 0/3] Support socket activation in 'guix publish' and 'guix-daemon' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-09  9:13   ` [bug#54811] [PATCH 3/3] daemon: Support systemd-style socket activation Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-09  9:29     ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-09 20:28       ` [bug#54811] [PATCH 0/3] Support socket activation in 'guix publish' and 'guix-daemon' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-09  9:19 ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-09 20:30   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-09 20:49     ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-10 17:34       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-10 17:43         ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-11  9:48           ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2022-04-11 10:06             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-11 20:33               ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-12  8:42                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-12 10:15                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-12  8:48                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-11 10:08             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-11 20:34               ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-11 10:10             ` Maxime Devos

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