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From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
To: Bruno Victal <mirai@makinata.eu>
Cc: 63985@debbugs.gnu.org, ludo@gnu.org, maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com
Subject: [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 00/11] Service subsystem improvements
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 23:55:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6445e508cbc8a9f92d3a54263193936d168cd7cf.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5613dc86-54ac-4bdb-b75a-400b1cb124bf@makinata.eu>

Am Samstag, dem 16.09.2023 um 22:22 +0100 schrieb Bruno Victal:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been pondering about the changes here and would like to comment
> on them:
> 
> On 2023-06-26 22:57, Bruno Victal wrote:
> > Bruno Victal (11):
> >   services: configuration: Simplify normalize-extra-args.
> >   services: configuration: Use transducers within
> >     serialize-configuration.
> >   services: fstrim-service-type: Serialize with SRFI-171
> > transducers.
> >   doc: Rewrite define-configuration.
> >   services: configuration: Add serializer-options field.
> 
> I think these changes are OK on their own since they add some extra
> flexibility to the serialize-configuration procedure and address a
> TODO item.
I'm not sure whether serializer options really add much value.  You can
use functional programming to define serializers for you and pass those
options in a cleaner way IMHO.  The documentation should be updated as
the changes are made.  As for the switch to SRFI 171, I'm not sure
whether backwards compatibility with Guile 2.2 is a requirement
somewhere; if it isn't, that change is probably fine.

> >   services: configuration: New generic-ini module.
> >   services: configuration: Add some commonly used predicates.
> 
> IMO I'm afraid this might be somewhat short-sighted and would be
> better addressed directly in Guile by implementing SRFI-233, perhaps
> by doing some adaptations to the approach taken here.
Even if Guile implemented SRFI 233 now, I'm not sure we could use it
tomorrow.  And even once we can use SRFI 233, we can keep backwards-
compatibility be re-exporting things.  The question is how necessary it
will be for us to maintain our own INI format writer.  NetworkManager
is one use case, but perhaps we have others (perhaps even in the gnome
world – gdm maybe?)

> >   services: NetworkManager: Use define-configuration and generic-
> > ini.>   services: NetworkManager: Prefer package over network-
> > manager.
> >   services: NetworkManager: add log-configuration field.
> >   services: NetworkManager: Add extra-options field.
> 
> Naturally these are no longer relevant if this generic-ini module
> approach is abandoned.
I think we can still upgrade this to define-configuration without a
generic-ini, but see above.  That being said, we can certainly split
this into two series at the point you currently feel comfortable with
and work from there.

WDYT?




  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-16 21:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-09 21:18 [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 0/5] Generic INI serializer & SRFI-171 for define-configuration Bruno Victal
2023-06-09 21:20 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 1/5] services: configuration: Simplify normalize-extra-args Bruno Victal
2023-06-09 21:20 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 2/5] services: configuration: Use transducers within serialize-configuration Bruno Victal
2023-06-09 21:20 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 3/5] services: fstrim-service-type: Serialize with SRFI-171 transducers Bruno Victal
2023-06-09 21:20 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 4/5] services: configuration: Add serializer-kwargs field Bruno Victal
2023-06-09 21:21 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 5/5] services: configuration: New generic-ini module Bruno Victal
2023-06-10 20:10 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC v2 1/5] services: configuration: Simplify normalize-extra-args Bruno Victal
2023-06-10 20:10 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC v2 2/5] services: configuration: Use transducers within serialize-configuration Bruno Victal
2023-06-10 20:10 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] services: fstrim-service-type: Serialize with SRFI-171 transducers Bruno Victal
2023-06-10 20:10 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC v2 4/5] services: configuration: Add serializer-options field Bruno Victal
2023-06-10 20:10 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC v2 5/5] services: configuration: New generic-ini module Bruno Victal
2023-06-26 21:57 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 00/11] Service subsystem improvements Bruno Victal
2023-06-26 21:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 01/11] services: configuration: Simplify normalize-extra-args Bruno Victal
2023-10-02 17:00     ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 0/5] Generic INI serializer & SRFI-171 for define-configuration Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-07 12:36       ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 01/11] services: configuration: Simplify normalize-extra-args. (was: bug#63985: [PATCH RFC 0/5] Generic INI serializer & SRFI-171 for define-configuration) Bruno Victal
2023-06-26 21:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 02/11] services: configuration: Use transducers within serialize-configuration Bruno Victal
2023-10-02 17:25     ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 0/5] Generic INI serializer & SRFI-171 for define-configuration Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-07 13:39       ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 02/11] services: configuration: Use transducers within serialize-configuration. (was : bug#63985: [PATCH RFC 0/5] Generic INI serializer & SRFI-171 for define-configuration) Bruno Victal
2023-10-07 14:37         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-06-26 21:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 03/11] services: fstrim-service-type: Serialize with SRFI-171 transducers Bruno Victal
2023-06-26 21:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 04/11] doc: Rewrite define-configuration Bruno Victal
2023-10-02 18:28     ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 0/5] Generic INI serializer & SRFI-171 for define-configuration Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-07 14:21       ` Bruno Victal
2023-10-07 16:35         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-06-26 21:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 05/11] services: configuration: Add serializer-options field Bruno Victal
2023-10-02 19:12     ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 0/5] Generic INI serializer & SRFI-171 for define-configuration Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-06 18:29       ` Bruno Victal
2023-06-26 21:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 06/11] services: configuration: New generic-ini module Bruno Victal
2023-10-02 19:15     ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 0/5] Generic INI serializer & SRFI-171 for define-configuration Maxim Cournoyer
2023-06-26 21:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 07/11] services: configuration: Add some commonly used predicates Bruno Victal
2023-06-26 21:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 08/11] services: NetworkManager: Use define-configuration and generic-ini Bruno Victal
2023-06-26 21:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 09/11] services: NetworkManager: Prefer package over network-manager Bruno Victal
2023-10-02 16:52     ` [bug#63985] [PATCH RFC 0/5] Generic INI serializer & SRFI-171 for define-configuration Maxim Cournoyer
2023-06-26 21:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 10/11] services: NetworkManager: add log-configuration field Bruno Victal
2023-10-05 16:57     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-06-26 21:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 11/11] services: NetworkManager: Add extra-options field Bruno Victal
2023-10-05 16:59     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-06-27  4:20   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v3 00/11] Service subsystem improvements Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-09-16 21:22   ` Bruno Victal
2023-09-16 21:55     ` Liliana Marie Prikler [this message]
2023-09-23 13:35       ` Bruno Victal
2023-09-23 15:22         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-09-25 14:06       ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-07 15:57 ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v4 0/5] SRFI-171 based improvements for define-configuration Bruno Victal
2023-10-07 15:57   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v4 2/5] services: configuration: Use transducers within serialize-configuration Bruno Victal
2023-10-07 15:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v4 1/5] services: configuration: Simplify normalize-extra-args Bruno Victal
2023-10-07 15:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v4 3/5] services: fstrim-service-type: Serialize with SRFI-171 transducers Bruno Victal
2023-10-07 15:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v4 4/5] doc: Rewrite define-configuration Bruno Victal
2023-10-07 15:59   ` [bug#63985] [PATCH v4 5/5] services: configuration: Add some commonly used predicates Bruno Victal
2023-10-07 16:57   ` bug#63985: SRFI-171 based improvements for define-configuration Maxim Cournoyer

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