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From: Philip McGrath <philip@philipmcgrath.com>
To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org, Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Subject: Re: better error messages through assertions
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:45:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3023ae1-4cdd-22e6-45e5-64aacefea025@philipmcgrath.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ilthoxvu.fsf@elephly.net>

Hi,

On 2/14/22 17:32, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
> As you can probably tell easily by looking at this message, the
> “service” field of the operating system configuration looked something
> like this:
> 
>    (services (append (list a b c %desktop-services) #;oops))
> 
> instead of this
> 
>    (services (append (list a b c) %desktop-services))
> 
> This is because INSTANTIATE-MISSING-SERVICES — and FOLD-SERVICES, and
> many more — assumes that it is only passed a plain list of services.  It
> then proceeds to call SERVICE-KIND on what may or may not be a service.
> 
> I think we should add simple type checks, something like this:
> 
>    (define (listof pred)
>      (lambda (thing)
>       (and (list? thing) (every pred thing))))
>    …
>    (define (assert-type type-check thing message)
>      (or (false-if-exception (type-check thing))
>          (report-error (G_ "type error: …\n" message))))
> 
>    ;; Use ASSERT-TYPE in an example procedure.
>    (define (do-something-with-services services)
>      (assert-type (listof service?) services
>                   "SERVICES must be a list of <service> values.")
> 
>      ;; Do things…
>      (map service-kind services))
> 
> What do you think?  There are many different ways of implementing this
> (a new variant of DEFINE that also accepts a type declaration, an assert
> like above, a fancier assert that composes a helpful error message by
> itself, a separate type declaration that is looked up only when the
> corresponding procedure is called in a certain context, etc), but I’d
> first like to know if there is consensus that we want something like
> this.
> 

As a Guix user and contributor, I would love better error messages.

As a Racketeer, I think you're half way to reinventing contracts.

In particular, since the operating system services field is thunked, 
this example already points to the desirability of higher-order contracts.

Using "contracts" need not initially involve all the bells and whistles 
of Racket's contract library. For example, higher-order contracts can be 
implemented with `lambda` in the absence of special runtime support for 
chaperones and impersonators, as illustrated in [1]. But the Racket 
community has accumulated a great deal of both theoretical insight and 
implementation experience in many subtle corners of this problem: I hope 
Guix can build on that experience.

-Philip

[1]: https://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/Building_New_Contracts.html




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-15 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-14 22:32 better error messages through assertions Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-15  8:48 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-15 21:45 ` Philip McGrath [this message]
2022-02-15 22:15   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-28 12:59     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-28 16:18       ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-07 10:13         ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-28 20:25           ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-30  9:37             ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-30 13:28               ` Andy Wingo
2022-04-01  8:47                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-01 19:28                 ` Philip McGrath
2022-04-05 12:04                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-01 19:47               ` Philip McGrath
2022-02-22  4:31 ` Arun Isaac
2022-02-25 18:55 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-26 13:33   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-26 13:51     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-28 13:02     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-28 16:00       ` Maxim Cournoyer

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