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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Philip McGrath <philip@philipmcgrath.com>
Cc: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: better error messages through assertions
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2022 11:13:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cziy2hq0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2205364.8dmU9V6fpu@bastet> (Philip McGrath's message of "Mon, 28 Feb 2022 11:18:16 -0500")

Hi Philip,

Philip McGrath <philip@philipmcgrath.com> skribis:

> Racket's state-of-the-art contract system has many features and nuances. I *do
> not* think anyone should try to implement them all in one fell swoop. I'm
> hoping there's a way to implement your simple assertions with only a modest
> amount of overhead that will provide the right base on which to grow the rest
> of a contract system. In the short term, the advantage over:
>
>>     (assert-type (listof service?) services
>>                  "SERVICES must be a list of <service> values.")
>
> is that you don't have to write error messages by hand.
>
> You need two types of values:
>
>  1. Contracts, recognized by `contract?`; and
>  2. Blame objects, recognized by `blame?`.

[...]

Thanks for the explanation and references!  I had briefly looked at
Racket’s contract API in the past but your message gave a clearer view
of how this all fits together.

> I would love to have contracts in Guix, even very rudimentary contracts. If
> it's something the community more generally would be interested in, I'd be
> glad to help as much as I can.

It’d be great to benefit from your expertise here.  Like you wrote, I
think we should start with a simple contract system, certainly simpler
than Racket’s, and build from there.

If you’re willing and able to spend time prototyping this, that’s great.
:-)

Thanks,
Ludo’.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-07 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-14 22:32 better error messages through assertions Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-15  8:48 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-15 21:45 ` Philip McGrath
2022-02-15 22:15   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-28 12:59     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-28 16:18       ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-07 10:13         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2022-03-28 20:25           ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-30  9:37             ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-30 13:28               ` Andy Wingo
2022-04-01  8:47                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-01 19:28                 ` Philip McGrath
2022-04-05 12:04                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-01 19:47               ` Philip McGrath
2022-02-22  4:31 ` Arun Isaac
2022-02-25 18:55 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-26 13:33   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-02-26 13:51     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-28 13:02     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-02-28 16:00       ` Maxim Cournoyer

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