Add more setups to Guix docs

Add more setups to Guix docs

[Ekaitz Zarraga]

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On Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 15:27, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:


> Hi,
>
> Ekaitz Zarraga ekaitz@elenq.tech skribis:
>
> > From 0c2be98f05bb288699a8e39dcef6428eb5a9dc3f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > Message-ID: 0c2be98f05bb288699a8e39dcef6428eb5a9dc3f.1695679042.git.ekaitz@elenq.tech
> > From: Ekaitz Zarraga ekaitz@elenq.tech
> > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:16:28 +0200
> > Subject: [PATCH] WIP: doc: contributing: Add alternative setups section
> >
> > Start with Guile Studio and Vim/NeoVim.
> >
> > * doc/contributing.texi (Alternative Setups): Add section explaining
> > other setups that are similar to the one in The Perfect Setup
>
>
> Not a maintainer either but I like it!
>
> > +@node Alternative Setups
> > +
>
>
> I think you’re missing an @section here.
>
> > +@node Vim and NeoVim
> > +@subsection Vim and Neovim
>
>
> Which spelling is the right one? :-)
>
> Maybe send it to guix-patches@gnu.org so it passes on everyone’s radar,
> but otherwise LGTM!
>
> Ludo’.

Great!
Thanks Ludo.

Fixed!

I add guix-patches in the loop.

Thanks all,
Ekaitz

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Message-ID: <8ea037b7d8f3472323682594266f5810fd87f291.1696433643.git.ekaitz@elenq.tech>
From: Ekaitz Zarraga <ekaitz@elenq.tech>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:16:28 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] doc: contributing: Add alternative setups section

Start with Guile Studio and Vim/NeoVim.

* doc/contributing.texi (Alternative Setups): Add section explaining
  other setups that are similar to the one in The Perfect Setup
---
 doc/contributing.texi | 77 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
 1 file changed, 70 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/contributing.texi b/doc/contributing.texi
index 0de47a403b..c476097bf5 100644
--- a/doc/contributing.texi
+++ b/doc/contributing.texi
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ Contributing
 * Building from Git::           The latest and greatest.
 * Running Guix Before It Is Installed::  Hacker tricks.
 * The Perfect Setup::           The right tools.
+* Alternative Setups::          Other posible tools that do the job.
 * Packaging Guidelines::        Growing the distribution.
 * Coding Style::                Hygiene of the contributor.
 * Submitting Patches::          Share your work.
@@ -453,6 +454,75 @@ The Perfect Setup
 Emacs Manual} and @ref{Minor Mode,,, debbugs-ug, The Debbugs User
 Guide}.
 
+@node Alternative Setups
+@section Alternative Setups
+
+Alternative setups than Emacs may let you work on Guix with a
+similar development experience and they might work better with the
+tools you currently use or help you make the transition to Emacs.
+
+The options listed below only provide the alternatives to the Emacs
+based setup, which is the most widely used in the Guix community. If
+you want to really understand how is the perfect setup for Guix
+development supposed to work, we encourage you to read the section
+before this regardless the editor you choose to use.
+
+@menu
+* Guile Studio::                First step in your transition to Emacs.
+* Vim and NeoVim::              When you are evil to the root.
+@end menu
+
+@node Guile Studio
+@subsection Guile Studio
+
+Guile Studio is a pre-configured Emacs with mostly everything you need
+to start hacking in Guile. If you are not familiar with Emacs it makes
+the transition easier for you.
+
+@example
+guix install guile-studio
+@end example
+
+Guile Studio comes with Geiser preinstalled and prepared for action.
+
+@node Vim and NeoVim
+@subsection Vim and NeoVim
+
+
+Vim (and NeoVim) are also packaged in Guix, just in case you decided
+to go for the evil path.
+
+@example
+guix install vim
+@end example
+
+If you want to enjoy a similar development experience to that in the perfect
+setup, you should install several plugins to configure the editor. Vim (and
+NeoVim) have the equivalent to Paredit,
+@uref{https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3998,
+@code{paredit.vim}}, that will help you with the structural editing of Scheme
+files (the support for very large files is not great, though).
+
+@example
+guix install vim-paredit
+@end example
+
+We also recommend that you run @code{:set autoindent} so that your code is
+automatically indented as you type.
+
+For the interaction with Git,
+@uref{https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2975
+@code{fugitive.vim}} is the most commonly used plugin:
+
+@example
+guix install vim-fugitive
+@end example
+
+In NeoVim you can even make a similar setup to Geiser using
+@url{https://conjure.fun/, Conjure} that lets you connect to a running Guile
+process and inject your code there live (sadly it's not packaged in Guix yet).
+
+
 @node Packaging Guidelines
 @section Packaging Guidelines
 
@@ -1257,13 +1327,6 @@ Formatting Code
 @noindent
 @xref{Invoking guix style}, for more information.
 
-@cindex Vim, Scheme code editing
-If you are editing code with Vim, we recommend that you run @code{:set
-autoindent} so that your code is automatically indented as you type.
-Additionally,
-@uref{https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3998,
-@code{paredit.vim}} may help you deal with all these parentheses.
-
 We require all top-level procedures to carry a docstring.  This
 requirement can be relaxed for simple private procedures in the
 @code{(guix build @dots{})} name space, though.

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Re: [bug#66343] Add more setups to Guix docs

[Efraim Flashner]

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I think we can mention guix.vim also

On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 03:36:18PM +0000, Ekaitz Zarraga wrote:
> 
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 15:27, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ekaitz Zarraga ekaitz@elenq.tech skribis:
> >
> > > From 0c2be98f05bb288699a8e39dcef6428eb5a9dc3f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > > Message-ID: 0c2be98f05bb288699a8e39dcef6428eb5a9dc3f.1695679042.git.ekaitz@elenq.tech
> > > From: Ekaitz Zarraga ekaitz@elenq.tech
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:16:28 +0200
> > > Subject: [PATCH] WIP: doc: contributing: Add alternative setups section
> > >
> > > Start with Guile Studio and Vim/NeoVim.
> > >
> > > * doc/contributing.texi (Alternative Setups): Add section explaining
> > > other setups that are similar to the one in The Perfect Setup
> >
> >
> > Not a maintainer either but I like it!
> >
> > > +@node Alternative Setups
> > > +
> >
> >
> > I think you’re missing an @section here.
> >
> > > +@node Vim and NeoVim
> > > +@subsection Vim and Neovim
> >
> >
> > Which spelling is the right one? :-)
> >
> > Maybe send it to guix-patches@gnu.org so it passes on everyone’s radar,
> > but otherwise LGTM!
> >
> > Ludo’.
> 
> Great!
> Thanks Ludo.
> 
> Fixed!
> 
> I add guix-patches in the loop.
> 
> Thanks all,
> Ekaitz

> From 8ea037b7d8f3472323682594266f5810fd87f291 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> Message-ID: <8ea037b7d8f3472323682594266f5810fd87f291.1696433643.git.ekaitz@elenq.tech>
> From: Ekaitz Zarraga <ekaitz@elenq.tech>
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:16:28 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] doc: contributing: Add alternative setups section
> 
> Start with Guile Studio and Vim/NeoVim.
> 
> * doc/contributing.texi (Alternative Setups): Add section explaining
>   other setups that are similar to the one in The Perfect Setup
> ---
>  doc/contributing.texi | 77 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>  1 file changed, 70 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/doc/contributing.texi b/doc/contributing.texi
> index 0de47a403b..c476097bf5 100644
> --- a/doc/contributing.texi
> +++ b/doc/contributing.texi
> @@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ Contributing
>  * Building from Git::           The latest and greatest.
>  * Running Guix Before It Is Installed::  Hacker tricks.
>  * The Perfect Setup::           The right tools.
> +* Alternative Setups::          Other posible tools that do the job.
>  * Packaging Guidelines::        Growing the distribution.
>  * Coding Style::                Hygiene of the contributor.
>  * Submitting Patches::          Share your work.
> @@ -453,6 +454,75 @@ The Perfect Setup
>  Emacs Manual} and @ref{Minor Mode,,, debbugs-ug, The Debbugs User
>  Guide}.
>  
> +@node Alternative Setups
> +@section Alternative Setups
> +
> +Alternative setups than Emacs may let you work on Guix with a
> +similar development experience and they might work better with the
> +tools you currently use or help you make the transition to Emacs.
> +
> +The options listed below only provide the alternatives to the Emacs
> +based setup, which is the most widely used in the Guix community. If
> +you want to really understand how is the perfect setup for Guix
> +development supposed to work, we encourage you to read the section
> +before this regardless the editor you choose to use.
> +
> +@menu
> +* Guile Studio::                First step in your transition to Emacs.
> +* Vim and NeoVim::              When you are evil to the root.
> +@end menu
> +
> +@node Guile Studio
> +@subsection Guile Studio
> +
> +Guile Studio is a pre-configured Emacs with mostly everything you need
> +to start hacking in Guile. If you are not familiar with Emacs it makes
> +the transition easier for you.
> +
> +@example
> +guix install guile-studio
> +@end example
> +
> +Guile Studio comes with Geiser preinstalled and prepared for action.
> +
> +@node Vim and NeoVim
> +@subsection Vim and NeoVim
> +
> +
> +Vim (and NeoVim) are also packaged in Guix, just in case you decided
> +to go for the evil path.
> +
> +@example
> +guix install vim
> +@end example
> +
> +If you want to enjoy a similar development experience to that in the perfect
> +setup, you should install several plugins to configure the editor. Vim (and
> +NeoVim) have the equivalent to Paredit,
> +@uref{https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3998,
> +@code{paredit.vim}}, that will help you with the structural editing of Scheme
> +files (the support for very large files is not great, though).
> +
> +@example
> +guix install vim-paredit
> +@end example
> +
> +We also recommend that you run @code{:set autoindent} so that your code is
> +automatically indented as you type.
> +
> +For the interaction with Git,
> +@uref{https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2975
> +@code{fugitive.vim}} is the most commonly used plugin:
> +
> +@example
> +guix install vim-fugitive
> +@end example
> +

And of course if you want to interact with Guix directly from inside of
vim, using the built-in terminal emulator, we have our very own
@code{guix.vim} package!

@example
guix install vim-guix-vim
@end example

> +In NeoVim you can even make a similar setup to Geiser using
> +@url{https://conjure.fun/, Conjure} that lets you connect to a running Guile
> +process and inject your code there live (sadly it's not packaged in Guix yet).
> +
> +
>  @node Packaging Guidelines
>  @section Packaging Guidelines
>  
> @@ -1257,13 +1327,6 @@ Formatting Code
>  @noindent
>  @xref{Invoking guix style}, for more information.
>  
> -@cindex Vim, Scheme code editing
> -If you are editing code with Vim, we recommend that you run @code{:set
> -autoindent} so that your code is automatically indented as you type.
> -Additionally,
> -@uref{https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3998,
> -@code{paredit.vim}} may help you deal with all these parentheses.
> -
>  We require all top-level procedures to carry a docstring.  This
>  requirement can be relaxed for simple private procedures in the
>  @code{(guix build @dots{})} name space, though.
> 
> base-commit: 284f8508bebcae510261c7c223dc28f9badf87ce
> -- 
> 2.41.0
> 


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Re: [bug#66343] Add more setups to Guix docs

[Ekaitz Zarraga]

------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 16:18, Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> wrote:


> I think we can mention guix.vim also


Certainly, do you want to add it yourself?

Nobody is going to explain it better than you.

:)

Re: [bug#66343] Add more setups to Guix docs

[Efraim Flashner]

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On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 06:15:53PM +0000, Ekaitz Zarraga wrote:
> 
> 
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 16:18, Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> wrote:
> 
> 
> > I think we can mention guix.vim also
> 
> 
> Certainly, do you want to add it yourself?
> 
> Nobody is going to explain it better than you.

I tossed in a line or two in the middle of the patch

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Re: [bug#66343] Add more setups to Guix docs

[Ekaitz Zarraga]

------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 18:35, Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> wrote:


> On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 06:15:53PM +0000, Ekaitz Zarraga wrote:
> 
> > ------- Original Message -------
> > On Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 16:18, Efraim Flashner efraim@flashner.co.il wrote:
> > 
> > > I think we can mention guix.vim also
> > 
> > Certainly, do you want to add it yourself?
> > 
> > Nobody is going to explain it better than you.
> 
> 
> I tossed in a line or two in the middle of the patch

But you didn't attach, did you?

Or you directly commited?

Re: [bug#66343] Add more setups to Guix docs

[Efraim Flashner]

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On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 06:47:51PM +0000, Ekaitz Zarraga wrote:
> 
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 18:35, Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 06:15:53PM +0000, Ekaitz Zarraga wrote:
> > 
> > > ------- Original Message -------
> > > On Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 16:18, Efraim Flashner efraim@flashner.co.il wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I think we can mention guix.vim also
> > > 
> > > Certainly, do you want to add it yourself?
> > > 
> > > Nobody is going to explain it better than you.
> > 
> > 
> > I tossed in a line or two in the middle of the patch
> 
> But you didn't attach, did you?
> 
> Or you directly commited?

I commented directly in the middle of the patch.

> +@example
> +guix install vim-fugitive
> +@end example
> +

And of course if you want to interact with Guix directly from inside of
vim, using the built-in terminal emulator, we have our very own
@code{guix.vim} package!

@example
guix install vim-guix-vim
@end example

> +In NeoVim you can even make a similar setup to Geiser using
> +@url{https://conjure.fun/, Conjure} that lets you connect to a running Guile

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From: Ekaitz Zarraga <ekaitz@elenq.tech>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:16:28 +0200
Subject: [PATCH v2] doc: contributing: Add alternative setups section

Start with Guile Studio and Vim/NeoVim.

* doc/contributing.texi (Alternative Setups): Add section explaining
other setups that are similar to the one in The Perfect Setup
---
 doc/contributing.texi | 85 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
 1 file changed, 78 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/contributing.texi b/doc/contributing.texi
index 0de47a403b..f7c72634e7 100644
--- a/doc/contributing.texi
+++ b/doc/contributing.texi
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ Contributing
 * Building from Git::           The latest and greatest.
 * Running Guix Before It Is Installed::  Hacker tricks.
 * The Perfect Setup::           The right tools.
+* Alternative Setups::          Other posible tools that do the job.
 * Packaging Guidelines::        Growing the distribution.
 * Coding Style::                Hygiene of the contributor.
 * Submitting Patches::          Share your work.
@@ -453,6 +454,83 @@ The Perfect Setup
 Emacs Manual} and @ref{Minor Mode,,, debbugs-ug, The Debbugs User
 Guide}.
 
+@node Alternative Setups
+@section Alternative Setups
+
+Alternative setups than Emacs may let you work on Guix with a
+similar development experience and they might work better with the
+tools you currently use or help you make the transition to Emacs.
+
+The options listed below only provide the alternatives to the Emacs
+based setup, which is the most widely used in the Guix community. If
+you want to really understand how is the perfect setup for Guix
+development supposed to work, we encourage you to read the section
+before this regardless the editor you choose to use.
+
+@menu
+* Guile Studio::                First step in your transition to Emacs.
+* Vim and NeoVim::              When you are evil to the root.
+@end menu
+
+@node Guile Studio
+@subsection Guile Studio
+
+Guile Studio is a pre-configured Emacs with mostly everything you need
+to start hacking in Guile. If you are not familiar with Emacs it makes
+the transition easier for you.
+
+@example
+guix install guile-studio
+@end example
+
+Guile Studio comes with Geiser preinstalled and prepared for action.
+
+@node Vim and NeoVim
+@subsection Vim and NeoVim
+
+
+Vim (and NeoVim) are also packaged in Guix, just in case you decided
+to go for the evil path.
+
+@example
+guix install vim
+@end example
+
+If you want to enjoy a similar development experience to that in the perfect
+setup, you should install several plugins to configure the editor. Vim (and
+NeoVim) have the equivalent to Paredit,
+@uref{https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3998,
+@code{paredit.vim}}, that will help you with the structural editing of Scheme
+files (the support for very large files is not great, though).
+
+@example
+guix install vim-paredit
+@end example
+
+We also recommend that you run @code{:set autoindent} so that your code is
+automatically indented as you type.
+
+For the interaction with Git,
+@uref{https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2975
+@code{fugitive.vim}} is the most commonly used plugin:
+
+@example
+guix install vim-fugitive
+@end example
+
+And of course if you want to interact with Guix directly from inside of
+vim, using the built-in terminal emulator, we have our very own
+@code{guix.vim} package!
+
+@example
+guix install vim-guix-vim
+@end example
+
+In NeoVim you can even make a similar setup to Geiser using
+@url{https://conjure.fun/, Conjure} that lets you connect to a running Guile
+process and inject your code there live (sadly it's not packaged in Guix yet).
+
+
 @node Packaging Guidelines
 @section Packaging Guidelines
 
@@ -1257,13 +1335,6 @@ Formatting Code
 @noindent
 @xref{Invoking guix style}, for more information.
 
-@cindex Vim, Scheme code editing
-If you are editing code with Vim, we recommend that you run @code{:set
-autoindent} so that your code is automatically indented as you type.
-Additionally,
-@uref{https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3998,
-@code{paredit.vim}} may help you deal with all these parentheses.
-
 We require all top-level procedures to carry a docstring.  This
 requirement can be relaxed for simple private procedures in the
 @code{(guix build @dots{})} name space, though.

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Re: [bug#66343] Add more setups to Guix docs

[Ekaitz Zarraga]

ElenQ Technology


------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 20:51, Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> wrote:


> On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 06:47:51PM +0000, Ekaitz Zarraga wrote:
> 
> > ------- Original Message -------
> > On Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 18:35, Efraim Flashner efraim@flashner.co.il wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 06:15:53PM +0000, Ekaitz Zarraga wrote:
> > > 
> > > > ------- Original Message -------
> > > > On Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 16:18, Efraim Flashner efraim@flashner.co.il wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I think we can mention guix.vim also
> > > > 
> > > > Certainly, do you want to add it yourself?
> > > > 
> > > > Nobody is going to explain it better than you.
> > > 
> > > I tossed in a line or two in the middle of the patch
> > 
> > But you didn't attach, did you?
> > 
> > Or you directly commited?
> 
> 
> I commented directly in the middle of the patch.
> 
> > +@example
> > +guix install vim-fugitive
> > +@end example
> > +
> 
> 
> And of course if you want to interact with Guix directly from inside of
> vim, using the built-in terminal emulator, we have our very own
> @code{guix.vim} package!
> 
> @example
> guix install vim-guix-vim
> @end example
> 
> > +In NeoVim you can even make a similar setup to Geiser using
> > +@url{https://conjure.fun/, Conjure} that lets you connect to a running Guile
> 
> 
> --
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> 
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It looks good to me.

Commit?

Re: [bug#66343] Add more setups to Guix docs

[Efraim Flashner]

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On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 08:55:32PM +0000, Ekaitz Zarraga wrote:
> 
> It looks good to me.
> 
> Commit?

Looks good to me too. Patch pushed!

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Re: [bug#66343] Add more setups to Guix docs

[Ekaitz Zarraga]

Thank you all for the collaboration!