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From: Kyle <kyle@posteo.net>
To: Spencer Skylar Chan <schan12@terpmail.umd.edu>,
	Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>,
	Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2023 Inquiry
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 18:59:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B5DDF68C-81E9-4522-AC05-7B572647CD30@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3c568c3-ec96-e3d1-4157-8bbdf56ff83c@terpmail.umd.edu>

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Dear Spencer, 

I am a bit worried about your proposed project is too focused on replacing python with guile. I think the project would benefit more from making python users more comfortable productively using Guix tools in concert with the tools they are already comfortable with.

I'm wondering if you might consider modifying your project goals toward exploring how GWL might be enhanced so that it could better complement more expressive language specific workflow tools like snakemake. I am also personally interested in exploring such a facilities from the targets workflow system in R as well. Alternatively, perhaps you could focus kn extending the GWL with more features?

I agree that establishing an achievable scope within a short timeline is crucial. The conda env importer idea would be quite an ambitious undertaking by itself and would lead you towards thinking about some pretty interesting and impactful problems.


On March 22, 2023 5:44:52 PM EDT, Spencer Skylar Chan <schan12@terpmail.umd.edu> wrote:
>Hi Ricardo,
>
>On 3/22/23 14:19, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
>> 
>>>> - Translating Snakemake to Guix Workflow Language (GWL)
>>> 
>>> Ricardo, maybe you would have some suggestions. :-)
>> 
>> Oh, this looks interesting.  Could you please elaborate on the idea?
>> 
>My idea is to take as input a Snakemake workflow file and eventually output an equivalent GWL workflow file.
>
>Currently, Snakemake workflows can be exported to CWL (Common Workflow Language):
>
>https://snakemake.readthedocs.io/en/stable/executing/interoperability.html
>
>One approach could be to add CWL import/export capabilities to GWL. Then Snakemake/GWL conversion would be a 2 step process, using CWL as an intermediate step:
>
>1. Snakemake -> CWL
>2. CWL -> GWL
>
>However, CWL is not as expressive as Snakemake. There may be some details that are lost from Snakemake workflows.
>
>So a 1-step Snakemake/GWL transpiler could be interesting, as both Snakemake/GWL use a domain-specific language inside a general purpose language (Python/Guile respectively). There may be a possibility to achieve more "accurate" translations between workflows.
>
>Is this topic something that could fit into a summer project?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-24 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-07  1:31 Google Summer of Code 2023 Inquiry Spencer Skylar Chan
2023-03-11 13:32 ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-14 10:10   ` Simon Tournier
2023-03-22 17:41   ` Spencer Skylar Chan
2023-03-22 18:19   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-03-22 21:44     ` Spencer Skylar Chan
2023-03-23  7:58       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-03-30 23:27         ` Spencer Skylar Chan
2023-03-31  0:52           ` Kyle
2023-03-24 18:59       ` Kyle [this message]
2023-03-30 23:22         ` Spencer Skylar Chan
2023-03-31 15:15           ` Kyle
2023-04-04  0:41             ` Spencer Skylar Chan
2023-04-04  6:29               ` Kyle
2023-04-04  8:59               ` Simon Tournier
2023-04-04 14:32                 ` Kyle
2023-04-04 17:15                   ` Simon Tournier
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2023-03-08  2:33 Spencer Skylar Chan

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