armhf guix - many packages not in substitutes repository? How to debug

armhf guix - many packages not in substitutes repository? How to debug

[白い熊＠相撲道]

dHi Guix: 

I'm running armhf Guix in the terminal on an Android phone. I've authorized hydra.gnu.org, ran “guix pull”, this is where the buck stops though… 

“guix package -u” never completes, fails inevitably, as it tries to build a lot of stuff locally, doesn't get everything from the substitutes repository. 

Even a simple “guix package -i ccache -n” gives me: 

~ $ guix package -i ccache -n
The following package would be installed:
   ccache	3.4.2	/gnu/store/c4r16nx7bnyf494jcj25kzis60w8sdry-ccache-3.4.2

substitute: updating list of substitutes from 'https://mirror.hydra.gnu.org'... 100.0%
The following derivations would be built:
   /gnu/store/ym5vkwj5shsdz31nkxyq23rb51y6vm01-profile.drv
   /gnu/store/zl9jh9bjkxq41xjprfshdfyq60q6hw4z-gtk-im-modules.drv
   /gnu/store/yb9f69wqiiab2v5ba196a9c63i919ix8-info-dir.drv
   /gnu/store/w2l1ibsilblq9zvd9xb92piwv46570kx-glib-schemas.drv
   /gnu/store/sp02pcl63xr481bdvawsshh0p0xjpc63-fonts-dir.drv
   /gnu/store/sk4scdsk3wd3kcdjfcs472lkwylzll5k-xdg-desktop-database.drv
   /gnu/store/5sn2gv7yixlpn1l1b9w898jma93zahi8-doxygen-1.8.14.src.tar.xz.drv
   /gnu/store/8jmcdza14xyzb69fpbdwhlfp61h4fh2g-doxygen-1.8.14.drv
   /gnu/store/4as04swmpgfa5qm8wj3yhiwj7vvjvnyw-libdrm-2.4.92.tar.xz.drv
   /gnu/store/13i7nh2m5ndralq79ymb8k8xkx62859r-libdrm-2.4.92.drv
   /gnu/store/3b0s63l4mck8m1mfjacjc8684l6blhxm-wayland-1.15.0.drv
   /gnu/store/mn5vfh1hixnvfjgqvbsz6w87wg5myn8p-json-glib-1.4.2.drv
   /gnu/store/zddxv75vv1y05drs2bac3dwgpkk17pxl-wayland-protocols-1.14.drv
   /gnu/store/b0d1fa2hdymd1aw5k5212injsk7bmx8c-module-import.drv
   /gnu/store/bf6cs1rh0zzxpssj3ks1c5jg677bzka6-gtk+-3.22.30.drv
   /gnu/store/mr1jm2wkwxl7v584bv7q13ygqb801y9z-module-import-compiled.drv
   /gnu/store/qhwf7w1bq4x8fah0srziwrs5k02vihr7-gtk-icon-themes.drv
   /gnu/store/9kfjqhp2cc09qrq2b8idfry8xg7qy6q8-xdg-mime-database.drv
   /gnu/store/3ph3lnyadhj0vfpp07kmkwh8spb16jka-ca-certificate-bundle.drv
   /gnu/store/vx5wxwmz8dpbzxr24nsqzapwdrm6aajv-manual-database.drv
94.2 MB would be downloaded:
   /gnu/store/c4r16nx7bnyf494jcj25kzis60w8sdry-ccache-3.4.2
   /gnu/store/nn7sq67ifb4kf4238kw5zyqhf3ax9jzb-texinfo-6.5
   /gnu/store/3c6wnqgr5y19fcdf7b30wf97wnz6pyl1-desktop-file-utils-0.23
   /gnu/store/j4hms5gksg9ppdhwwrsdji8hh8mxahk1-module-import
   /gnu/store/mrqx6d307kq9yf54c542r7552jvd9lmn-module-import-compiled
   /gnu/store/mawn5xaafrqxaq9b8a3shg104a4a67wj-wayland-protocols-1.14.tar.xz
   /gnu/store/pq5y1bj17pkcq6l2qq8k773byw5xmz54-module-import-compiled
   /gnu/store/qs8f1wad0nlmscn3rncb8ppcnc2f1w53-module-import
   /gnu/store/zchhihjicr2x6sq4if89cw68jx597jz2-meson-for-build-0.46.1
   /gnu/store/n44n5bpf72lw0sprd02jq9q4y0hwhyxs-module-import
   /gnu/store/xz73aqv1r54kbcgq8yhx5l6zzbjkvsbz-doxygen-1.8.14.src.tar.gz
   /gnu/store/3nmikzxa87p02fv0yisg0ik7n8w7d22v-module-import-compiled
   /gnu/store/fqnxlsqbsickk4j1j6nm0g95snnhvq5j-cmake-3.11.0
   /gnu/store/b2hrqgs2xgpk78iwvk70lvi7rxb834fl-module-import
   /gnu/store/adqqm66pmk2n4shq0brd0gpm91l84fba-bison-3.0.4
   /gnu/store/ggdn4flbvcfhpmcwjz9b8385hzbrb2dd-m4-1.4.18
   /gnu/store/l9bha748151gjyx5p9m31izmvrcnwd6g-module-import-compiled
   /gnu/store/x75c9hfs9d4nkbngq2qr88bkmx4lxdd5-bash-minimal-4.4.19
   /gnu/store/ihjv4ab6l4lp1wcx3zriqrg4dfp34bp6-flex-2.6.1
   /gnu/store/nahp7gaq0jvivcahyyp86vjpnpx5l9sv-xmlto-0.0.28
   /gnu/store/92pp5726im4sflhxk179pgzmfvlhgy47-libxslt-1.1.32
   /gnu/store/9z3pnqqh4nywxylags5k1vpica1096is-wayland-1.15.0.tar.xz
   /gnu/store/bvvdq20hzk6y9hxzmwhzxzxac7m5z7y9-docbook-xsl-1.79.1
   /gnu/store/b7ll0kaqylh6kbi1yp2a47zx12p2x1pg-docbook-xml-4.5
   /gnu/store/16cc1iyxka95wbkw335wngbyhm3wr5s8-libdrm-2.4.92.tar.bz2
   /gnu/store/c3vwlarqkq4bqfjdz52xyvsd5w88cj4n-mesa-18.1.2
   /gnu/store/f98z0xdj2zslayj0y10xknb6k96f0mhy-gtk+-3.22.30.tar.xz
   /gnu/store/dhcqjg7whrwsn7wrbkrmax6ij4c2sg05-libxkbcommon-0.8.0
   /gnu/store/92s0ckbbiyhmy6w0c4qfsbsh3yzzk5mv-xorg-server-1.19.3
   /gnu/store/d3mli5zrshf01id1zjz2sw82h1ypp66b-libepoxy-1.5.2
   /gnu/store/3qncjdd6d66hpm6rq6ax284fh431qr65-rhash-1.3.6
   /gnu/store/mgakk70yz756ajd320007dsy85iaf5xb-libuv-1.19.2
   /gnu/store/qwpzsjryhyzp1w1yp16hfr1yzi26p053-libarchive-3.3.2
   /gnu/store/rh4yy11pf4m5c6mbzh9n13bw2k1vd0hj-curl-7.59.0
   /gnu/store/i7v5na68zsxl2m9j38vcj7axvblxqvl2-xkeyboard-config-2.23.1
   /gnu/store/f98fg4q3bdvadw10p0q076qh8n2ljqkf-xkbcomp-1.4.2

This build will eventually fail, I've tried. 

Is this because after “guix pull” the package definitions are so new that many packages are not built for armhf and available on Hydra? 

Is there a way for me somehow to “update” and install packages from substitutes only? So that it would get and install the latest version built and available for the architecture? 
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白い熊＠相撲道

Re: armhf guix - many packages not in substitutes repository? How to debug

[Chris Marusich]

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白い熊＠相撲道 <guix-devel_gnu.org@sumou.com> writes:

> dHi Guix: 
>
> I'm running armhf Guix in the terminal on an Android phone. I've
> authorized hydra.gnu.org, ran “guix pull”, this is where the buck
> stops though…
>
> “guix package -u” never completes, fails inevitably, as it tries to
> build a lot of stuff locally, doesn't get everything from the
> substitutes repository.
>
> Even a simple “guix package -i ccache -n” gives me: 
>
> ~ $ guix package -i ccache -n
> The following package would be installed:
>    ccache	3.4.2	/gnu/store/c4r16nx7bnyf494jcj25kzis60w8sdry-ccache-3.4.2
>
> substitute: updating list of substitutes from 'https://mirror.hydra.gnu.org'... 100.0%
> The following derivations would be built:
>    /gnu/store/ym5vkwj5shsdz31nkxyq23rb51y6vm01-profile.drv
>    /gnu/store/zl9jh9bjkxq41xjprfshdfyq60q6hw4z-gtk-im-modules.drv
>    /gnu/store/yb9f69wqiiab2v5ba196a9c63i919ix8-info-dir.drv
>    /gnu/store/w2l1ibsilblq9zvd9xb92piwv46570kx-glib-schemas.drv
>    /gnu/store/sp02pcl63xr481bdvawsshh0p0xjpc63-fonts-dir.drv
>    /gnu/store/sk4scdsk3wd3kcdjfcs472lkwylzll5k-xdg-desktop-database.drv
>    /gnu/store/5sn2gv7yixlpn1l1b9w898jma93zahi8-doxygen-1.8.14.src.tar.xz.drv
>    /gnu/store/8jmcdza14xyzb69fpbdwhlfp61h4fh2g-doxygen-1.8.14.drv
>    /gnu/store/4as04swmpgfa5qm8wj3yhiwj7vvjvnyw-libdrm-2.4.92.tar.xz.drv
>    /gnu/store/13i7nh2m5ndralq79ymb8k8xkx62859r-libdrm-2.4.92.drv
>    /gnu/store/3b0s63l4mck8m1mfjacjc8684l6blhxm-wayland-1.15.0.drv
>    /gnu/store/mn5vfh1hixnvfjgqvbsz6w87wg5myn8p-json-glib-1.4.2.drv
>    /gnu/store/zddxv75vv1y05drs2bac3dwgpkk17pxl-wayland-protocols-1.14.drv
>    /gnu/store/b0d1fa2hdymd1aw5k5212injsk7bmx8c-module-import.drv
>    /gnu/store/bf6cs1rh0zzxpssj3ks1c5jg677bzka6-gtk+-3.22.30.drv
>    /gnu/store/mr1jm2wkwxl7v584bv7q13ygqb801y9z-module-import-compiled.drv
>    /gnu/store/qhwf7w1bq4x8fah0srziwrs5k02vihr7-gtk-icon-themes.drv
>    /gnu/store/9kfjqhp2cc09qrq2b8idfry8xg7qy6q8-xdg-mime-database.drv
>    /gnu/store/3ph3lnyadhj0vfpp07kmkwh8spb16jka-ca-certificate-bundle.drv
>    /gnu/store/vx5wxwmz8dpbzxr24nsqzapwdrm6aajv-manual-database.drv
> 94.2 MB would be downloaded:
>    /gnu/store/c4r16nx7bnyf494jcj25kzis60w8sdry-ccache-3.4.2
>    /gnu/store/nn7sq67ifb4kf4238kw5zyqhf3ax9jzb-texinfo-6.5
>    /gnu/store/3c6wnqgr5y19fcdf7b30wf97wnz6pyl1-desktop-file-utils-0.23
>    /gnu/store/j4hms5gksg9ppdhwwrsdji8hh8mxahk1-module-import
>    /gnu/store/mrqx6d307kq9yf54c542r7552jvd9lmn-module-import-compiled
>    /gnu/store/mawn5xaafrqxaq9b8a3shg104a4a67wj-wayland-protocols-1.14.tar.xz
>    /gnu/store/pq5y1bj17pkcq6l2qq8k773byw5xmz54-module-import-compiled
>    /gnu/store/qs8f1wad0nlmscn3rncb8ppcnc2f1w53-module-import
>    /gnu/store/zchhihjicr2x6sq4if89cw68jx597jz2-meson-for-build-0.46.1
>    /gnu/store/n44n5bpf72lw0sprd02jq9q4y0hwhyxs-module-import
>    /gnu/store/xz73aqv1r54kbcgq8yhx5l6zzbjkvsbz-doxygen-1.8.14.src.tar.gz
>    /gnu/store/3nmikzxa87p02fv0yisg0ik7n8w7d22v-module-import-compiled
>    /gnu/store/fqnxlsqbsickk4j1j6nm0g95snnhvq5j-cmake-3.11.0
>    /gnu/store/b2hrqgs2xgpk78iwvk70lvi7rxb834fl-module-import
>    /gnu/store/adqqm66pmk2n4shq0brd0gpm91l84fba-bison-3.0.4
>    /gnu/store/ggdn4flbvcfhpmcwjz9b8385hzbrb2dd-m4-1.4.18
>    /gnu/store/l9bha748151gjyx5p9m31izmvrcnwd6g-module-import-compiled
>    /gnu/store/x75c9hfs9d4nkbngq2qr88bkmx4lxdd5-bash-minimal-4.4.19
>    /gnu/store/ihjv4ab6l4lp1wcx3zriqrg4dfp34bp6-flex-2.6.1
>    /gnu/store/nahp7gaq0jvivcahyyp86vjpnpx5l9sv-xmlto-0.0.28
>    /gnu/store/92pp5726im4sflhxk179pgzmfvlhgy47-libxslt-1.1.32
>    /gnu/store/9z3pnqqh4nywxylags5k1vpica1096is-wayland-1.15.0.tar.xz
>    /gnu/store/bvvdq20hzk6y9hxzmwhzxzxac7m5z7y9-docbook-xsl-1.79.1
>    /gnu/store/b7ll0kaqylh6kbi1yp2a47zx12p2x1pg-docbook-xml-4.5
>    /gnu/store/16cc1iyxka95wbkw335wngbyhm3wr5s8-libdrm-2.4.92.tar.bz2
>    /gnu/store/c3vwlarqkq4bqfjdz52xyvsd5w88cj4n-mesa-18.1.2
>    /gnu/store/f98z0xdj2zslayj0y10xknb6k96f0mhy-gtk+-3.22.30.tar.xz
>    /gnu/store/dhcqjg7whrwsn7wrbkrmax6ij4c2sg05-libxkbcommon-0.8.0
>    /gnu/store/92s0ckbbiyhmy6w0c4qfsbsh3yzzk5mv-xorg-server-1.19.3
>    /gnu/store/d3mli5zrshf01id1zjz2sw82h1ypp66b-libepoxy-1.5.2
>    /gnu/store/3qncjdd6d66hpm6rq6ax284fh431qr65-rhash-1.3.6
>    /gnu/store/mgakk70yz756ajd320007dsy85iaf5xb-libuv-1.19.2
>    /gnu/store/qwpzsjryhyzp1w1yp16hfr1yzi26p053-libarchive-3.3.2
>    /gnu/store/rh4yy11pf4m5c6mbzh9n13bw2k1vd0hj-curl-7.59.0
>    /gnu/store/i7v5na68zsxl2m9j38vcj7axvblxqvl2-xkeyboard-config-2.23.1
>    /gnu/store/f98fg4q3bdvadw10p0q076qh8n2ljqkf-xkbcomp-1.4.2
>
> This build will eventually fail, I've tried. 

How does it fail?

> Is this because after “guix pull” the package definitions are so new
> that many packages are not built for armhf and available on Hydra?

If you run "guix pull" and then immediately try to build software,
you'll likely need to build some software from source, since substitutes
won't be available yet.

> Is there a way for me somehow to “update” and install packages from
> substitutes only? So that it would get and install the latest version
> built and available for the architecture?

What you're asking for is basically "Guix channels".  It doesn't
currently exist for Guix.  This has been discussed in the past, and
multiple people would like to have it, but unfortunately nobody has
submitted any patches for it yet:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2018-01/msg00264.html

See also:

https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=26608

-- 
Chris

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