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* Fun question: has anyone tried secure boot with GuixSD?
@ 2017-07-17 22:09 ng0
  2017-07-17 23:20 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: ng0 @ 2017-07-17 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: guix-devel

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Following some interesting points I got during a discussion we had
(offline), I have some questions for multiple projects. One of the
topics is "Secure Boot".

Apparently I missed the point with my hardware and systems where Secure
Boot practically became mandatory and default. Which was a long time
ago as I learned today.

As you know or don't know I'm working towards a system based on GuixSD
where one of its scenarios and configurations is to be used from an USB
disk (think 'TAILS' big sister).
I'm about to ask the secure-os mailinglist about how they handle the
Secure Boot (ie: Microsoft) case with their systems.
For us (as in us->Guix) I pose the questions:
- has someone tried this?
- would it technically be possible given the (un/likely) case we get
  Microsoft to cooperate (leaving aside the techno-ethical points for
  this question)?

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* Re: Fun question: has anyone tried secure boot with GuixSD?
  2017-07-17 22:09 Fun question: has anyone tried secure boot with GuixSD? ng0
@ 2017-07-17 23:20 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Adonay Felipe Nogueira @ 2017-07-17 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: guix-devel

Thanks for asking others to leave the "Microsoft-phobia" aside. This is
important because we must replace our (organization/brand)-based view
with a per (product/project/model/work)-based view, because exclusively
for-profit organizations aren't always in favor of the free/libre
software movement (according to
[[https://k7r.eu/there-is-no-free-software-company-but/]] and
[[https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/libreplanet-2016-the-last-lighthouse-3d51/]]).

Before anyone else jumps at us, it's important to note the difference
between "Secure Boot" and "Restricted Boot". Basically, the first one
allows the user himself to manage (add/remove/modify) any keys or trust
levels he wants to, while the second doesn't
([[https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libby/m/embracing-secure-boot-and-rejecting-restricted-boot-matthew-garrett/]]).

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