emacs-25.3 aborted

emacs-25.3 aborted

[Daniel Pimentel]

Guixs,

I updated my GuixSD and I'm use EXWM + Emacs like my desktop. So, in 
version 25.3 of Emacs there's error when start it in X11 or console 
(TTY). This error only appear in Emacs full installation but I did a 
test using emacs-no-x and it work. Maybe there are a bug with GTK module 
or other dependencies. Someone is there the same error?

Thanks,

-- 
Daniel Pimentel (d4n1)

Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

There is a related item in help-guix ([1]), and there was an attempt made
by me to get a backtrace and a strace --- although I still have to find
out how to install debug symbols for GNU Emacs.

As I replied there ([2]), it might be due to a change between
2017-10-10T08:25 BRT and 2017-10-30T16:27 BRST --- either in a Guix
package definition or in the upstreams.

I assume all packages are suspects, but I see that it might be an issue
related to GTK+, or some related component that is present at build
time.

One could list commits from these dates by doing:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
git log --after="2017-10-10T08:25 BRT" --before="2017-10-30T16:27 BRST"
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Now we must test by making local copies of the possibly affected package
definitions, reverting the commits, and building our Emacs locally.

I'll also post a message similar to this in the thread referenced in
[1].

[1] <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2017-11/msg00054.html>.

[2] <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2017-11/msg00061.html>.

2017-11-23T17:52:49-0300 Daniel Pimentel wrote:
> Guixs,
>
> I updated my GuixSD and I'm use EXWM + Emacs like my desktop. So, in
> version 25.3 of Emacs there's error when start it in X11 or console
> (TTY). This error only appear in Emacs full installation but I did a
> test using emacs-no-x and it work. Maybe there are a bug with GTK
> module or other dependencies. Someone is there the same error?
>
> Thanks,

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Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Adonay Felipe Nogueira <adfeno@hyperbola.info> skribis:

> There is a related item in help-guix ([1]), and there was an attempt made
> by me to get a backtrace and a strace --- although I still have to find
> out how to install debug symbols for GNU Emacs.
>
> As I replied there ([2]), it might be due to a change between
> 2017-10-10T08:25 BRT and 2017-10-30T16:27 BRST --- either in a Guix
> package definition or in the upstreams.
>
> I assume all packages are suspects, but I see that it might be an issue
> related to GTK+, or some related component that is present at build
> time.
>
> One could list commits from these dates by doing:
>
> git log --after="2017-10-10T08:25 BRT" --before="2017-10-30T16:27 BRST"
>
> Now we must test by making local copies of the possibly affected package
> definitions, reverting the commits, and building our Emacs locally.

There are 673 commits here.  Could you attempt a bisect, or manually
reduce the search space by trying out Emacs from earlier commits?

If you have a Guix checkout, just checkout a commit from, say,
Oct. 20th, run ‘make’, and check whether Emacs built from that commit
has the problem:

  guix environment --ad-hoc emacs -- emacs -Q

TIA!

Ludo’.

Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[D4n1]

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Guix,

Follow gdb output on core dump when emacs crash returning error 6.

Daniel Pimentel (d4n1)On Nov 23, 2017 6:52 PM, Daniel Pimentel <d4n1@d4n1.org> wrote:
>
> Guixs, 
>
> I updated my GuixSD and I'm use EXWM + Emacs like my desktop. So, in 
> version 25.3 of Emacs there's error when start it in X11 or console 
> (TTY). This error only appear in Emacs full installation but I did a 
> test using emacs-no-x and it work. Maybe there are a bug with GTK module 
> or other dependencies. Someone is there the same error? 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> -- 
> Daniel Pimentel (d4n1) 
>

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Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

I might have found a way to work around the issue, I don't know if it
solves the real problem, but might work for you.

See the message I wrote in [1].

[1] <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2017-11/msg00100.html>.

2017-12-08T19:07:08-0200 D4n1 wrote:
> Guix,
>
> Follow gdb output on core dump when emacs crash returning error 6.

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Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Daniel Pimentel]

The problem is in GTK modules with Emacs. I installed the 
emacs-no-x-toolkit and it works.

---
Daniel Pimentel (d4n1)

On 2017-12-12 11:01, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
> I might have found a way to work around the issue, I don't know if it
> solves the real problem, but might work for you.
> 
> See the message I wrote in [1].
> 
> [1] 
> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2017-11/msg00100.html>.
> 
> 2017-12-08T19:07:08-0200 D4n1 wrote:
>> Guix,
>> 
>> Follow gdb output on core dump when emacs crash returning error 6.

Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

Glad you found a work around. ;)

2017-12-12T11:04:40-0300 Daniel Pimentel wrote:
> The problem is in GTK modules with Emacs. I installed the
> emacs-no-x-toolkit and it works.
>
> ---
> Daniel Pimentel (d4n1)
>
> On 2017-12-12 11:01, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
>> I might have found a way to work around the issue, I don't know if it
>> solves the real problem, but might work for you.
>>
>> See the message I wrote in [1].
>>
>> [1]
>> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2017-11/msg00100.html>.
>>
>> 2017-12-08T19:07:08-0200 D4n1 wrote:
>>> Guix,
>>>
>>> Follow gdb output on core dump when emacs crash returning error 6.
>

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Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Ricardo Wurmus]

I can reproduce this on i686.  After installing Emacs with “guix package
--no-grafts -u emacs”, however, there is no crash.

The crash only happens with the grafted Emacs.

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Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

I'm using i686 here too. ;)

2017-12-14T00:15:23+0100 Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
> I can reproduce this on i686.  After installing Emacs with “guix package
> --no-grafts -u emacs”, however, there is no crash.
>
> The crash only happens with the grafted Emacs.
>
> --
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>
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Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Ludovic Courtès]

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:

> I can reproduce this on i686.  After installing Emacs with “guix package
> --no-grafts -u emacs”, however, there is no crash.
>
> The crash only happens with the grafted Emacs.

Indeed:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ ./pre-inst-env guix environment -s i686-linux --ad-hoc emacs --pure -- emacs -Q

** (emacs-25-3:10005): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
Fatal error 6: Aborted
Backtrace:
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x81393ec]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8121e63]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x813947c]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e75]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176cce]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176c9e]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176cce]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x817705f]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176c9e]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176c9e]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176c9e]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176c9e]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176c9e]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176c9e]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176c9e]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176cce]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x817705f]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176cce]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x817705f]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x81770fd]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x817841e]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e7f]
/gnu/store/d39xg06h35k91syyp7k3lhiprwxii2ii-emacs-25.3/bin/emacs-25.3[0x8176e5d]
...
$ git describe
v0.14.0-234-g583016820
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The backtrace shows that it crashed during the mark phase:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#0  0xf7f01df9 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xf5fdd1d1 in raise () from /gnu/store/kzkgc8avgnanrv3ab2g3g8yj7l4bcavj-glibc-2.25/lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0x08121e91 in terminate_due_to_signal ()
#3  0x0813947c in emacs_abort ()
#4  0x08176e75 in mark_object ()
#5  0x08176e5d in mark_object ()
#6  0x08176cce in mark_object ()
#7  0x08176e5d in mark_object ()
#8  0x08176c9e in mark_object ()
#9  0x08176e5d in mark_object ()
#10 0x08176e5d in mark_object ()
#11 0x08176cce in mark_object ()
#12 0x0817705f in mark_vectorlike ()
#13 0x08176e5d in mark_object ()

[...]

#167 0x0817748a in Fgarbage_collect ()
#168 0x081bf73a in exec_byte_code ()
#169 0x0818d87b in funcall_lambda ()
#170 0x0818dc39 in Ffuncall ()
#171 0x081bf42d in exec_byte_code ()
#172 0x0818d87b in funcall_lambda ()
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

And indeed --no-grafts doesn’t have this problem.

Could it be that grafting breaks the unexec’d image in subtle ways?

Ludo’.

Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Daniel Pimentel]

Wurmus and Guix,

I installed emacs with "--no-grafts" and emacs-exwm with this flag and 
it works.

Thanks,

---
Daniel Pimentel (d4n1)

On 2017-12-13 20:15, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
> I can reproduce this on i686.  After installing Emacs with “guix 
> package
> --no-grafts -u emacs”, however, there is no crash.
> 
> The crash only happens with the grafted Emacs.
> 
> --
> Ricardo
> 
> GPG: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6  2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC
> https://elephly.net

Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi Daniel,

Daniel Pimentel <d4n1@d4n1.org> skribis:

> I installed emacs with "--no-grafts" and emacs-exwm with this flag and
> it works.

Be aware that using --no-grafts means that the resulting Emacs lacks
many security fixes:

  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Security-Updates.html

Thus it’s not a proper solution.

Ludo’.

Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Daniel Pimentel]

Hi Ludo,

> Be aware that using --no-grafts means that the resulting Emacs lacks
> many security fixes:
> 
>   
> https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Security-Updates.html
> 
> Thus it’s not a proper solution.

Yes, I agree because it isn't better solution. I'm using it now, but 
I'll study more to fix and I'll send a patch.

Thanks,

Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

I don't know what caused this, but something between Guix
0.14.0-6.0dcf675 and 0.14.0-8.bc880f9 forced my own computer attempt to
build Emacs, and resulted in a working Emacs version.

Store path name differences for Emacs:

- Old (working): b1nbgnpifkisz4szmasxrwzqlgqagy8w-emacs-25.3
- New (self-built, working): lh66vaxq3da6m8yz83lvgny4f4bwh760-emacs-25.3

Re: emacs-25.3 aborted

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hello Adonay,

Adonay Felipe Nogueira <adfeno@hyperbola.info> skribis:

> I don't know what caused this, but something between Guix
> 0.14.0-6.0dcf675 and 0.14.0-8.bc880f9 forced my own computer attempt to
> build Emacs, and resulted in a working Emacs version.
>
> Store path name differences for Emacs:
>
> - Old (working): b1nbgnpifkisz4szmasxrwzqlgqagy8w-emacs-25.3
> - New (self-built, working): lh66vaxq3da6m8yz83lvgny4f4bwh760-emacs-25.3

Weird, but thanks for letting us know!

On IRC people have reported Emacs crashes similar to what you had
recently, so it may be that there’s still an issue lurking.

Ludo’.