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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Nikita Karetnikov <nikita@karetnikov.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New ‘--list-generations’ and ‘--delete-generations’ options
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:16:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ob7tm05z.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k3ihyq8a.fsf@karetnikov.org> (Nikita Karetnikov's message of "Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:12:53 +0400")

Nikita Karetnikov <nikita@karetnikov.org> skribis:

>> Cool.  The diff looks great...  but it lacks tests.
>
> Yes, I wanted to finish the recutils part first.

I think it’s reasonable to have a first milestone without recutils
output.

> I’ve been thinking about that, and I don’t like that we’d have to use
> two record sets.  It’d be necessary to post-process the output nearly
> every time.  Then why bother?  We can already filter the output using
> regexps.

Not sure what you mean by “two record sets”.

I see two use cases: one where you just want human-friendly output, for
when one is glancing at the available generations, and one that is more
amenable to Unix pipelines for post-processing.  Recutils output is for
the latter case.

> I still think that someone may benefit from the recutils format.  So
> let’s allow the ‘recutils’ argument that would list all generations in
> that format [1] and use the following format [2] for everything else:
>
>   generation 1     Dec 16 2013
>     guile    2.0.7 out,debug    gnu/packages/guile.scm
>     hello    2.8   out          gnu/packages/base.scm
>
>   generation 2     May 7 2013
>     guile    2.0.9 out          gnu/packages/guile.scm
>
> Is it OK?

Yes.

> Should it point to the store instead of (gnu packages …)?

Yes, I think so.

> Also, why did you propose to use ‘object->fields’?  Should I create an
> SRFI-9 record representing the recutils fields?

‘object->fields’ is just a convenient way to serialize an object in
recutils format.

So no, you don’t need a new record type for the recutils field.  Instead
you would just serialize the objects that represent a profile/manifest
using that (currently there’s no distinct record type for those, but the
idea is the same.)

>> What you could do is add the test cases you already have to
>> tests/profile.scm, say (or tests/ui.scm for ‘string->duration’, and then
>> put that one in (guix ui)?), along with a simple test in
>> tests/guix-package.sh.
>
> Why do you suggest to put ‘string->duration’ into (guix ui)?

Because it’s a user-interface function.

> I think we should try to write all tests in Scheme, so we could switch
> to property-based testing at some point (see [3], for instance).

We still want to test the command-line user interface too.  That’s why
there’s tests/packages.scm *and* tests/guix-package.sh, for instance.

Besides, I’m all for QuickCheck-style tests, there just wasn’t any
ready-to-use lib for Guile at the time (I think Ian Price has
written/ported one in the meantime, though.)

>>> (Is it necessary to mention that ‘maybe-comma-separated-integers’ accepts
>>> something like ‘1,2,3,’ or ‘1,,,2’.  Or should I change the function?)
>
>> That’s OK.
>
> Hmmm, it feels sloppy, so I’ve changed the function:

Even better.  :-)

>>> +(define (string->generations str)
>>> +  "Return a list of generations matching a pattern in STR.  This function
>
>> Return *the* list of...
>
> Done.
>
> I never know which article should be used in such cases; the docstring
> talks about it for the first time…  On the other hand, it talks about a
> particular object.  How do you distinguish these cases?

Here we’re using Scheme lists to represent a set, and there can be only
one set of generations matching the given pattern; that’s why I
suggested ‘the’ instead of ‘a’.

In general I like to remove any ambiguity, and using ‘a’ is often a
source of ambiguity.

>>> guix package: error: build failed: getting attributes of path `/nix/store/fcwh19ljibqjfx0c3cwnwcc7p31aq227-glibc-2.17-locales': No such file or directory
>
>> Arf, what have you dooooone?
>
> I don’t knooooow!
>
>> Maybe you can try ‘nix-store --verify’
>
> I installed Nix 1.5.3. and ran the command:
>
> error: setting synchronous mode: unable to open database file

Problem with permissions on the SQLite database, I guess.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-16 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-29 12:34 Goals for 0.4 Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-29 13:16 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-08-29 13:36   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-30 17:55     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-08-30 18:31       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-31 16:40         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-08-31 18:05           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-31 20:34             ` Jose E. Marchesi
2013-08-31 21:07               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-01 23:16                 ` New ‘--list-generations’ and ‘--delete-generations’ options (was: Goals for 0.4) Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-02  9:08                   ` New ‘--list-generations’ and ‘--delete-generations’ options Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-05  1:30                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-05 20:00                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-05 21:14                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-07 19:34                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-08 10:59                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-08 20:22                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-09  9:17                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-09 16:55                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-11  5:16                                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-11 21:25                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-12  9:17                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-12 12:26                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-13 14:44                                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-13 21:29                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-16 11:12                                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-16 12:16                                                   ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2013-09-18  0:43                                                     ` PRELIMINARY: [PATCH] guix package: Add '--list-generations' Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-18 17:35                                                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-18 21:32                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-19  0:49                                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-19  9:39                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-19 11:48                                                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-19 12:13                                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-21 20:39                                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-18 21:35                                                       ` PRELIMINARY: " Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-22 19:19     ` [PATCH] guix package: Add '--delete-generations' Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-22 20:15       ` Generation 0 (was: [PATCH] guix package: Add '--delete-generations'.) Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-22 21:15         ` Generation 0 Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-23 10:14           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-23 15:42             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24  0:54           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-24  5:56             ` [PATCH] guix package: Show which generation is the current one. (was: Generation 0) Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-24 12:45               ` [PATCH] guix package: Show which generation is the current one Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24 13:55                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-24 14:16                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-25  2:10                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-25 12:51                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24 12:43             ` Generation 0 Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24 22:29               ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-25 12:50                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-25 18:07                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-25 19:24                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-26  2:18                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-26  9:44                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-22 20:55       ` [PATCH] guix package: Add '--delete-generations' Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-23 10:11         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-23 15:41           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24  7:21             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-24 12:50               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24 13:57                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-25  4:21             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-25 13:05               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-26  2:47                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-26  9:49                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-27 19:04                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-03 19:21   ` MIPS64/N64 support (was: Goals for 0.4) Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-03 20:45     ` MIPS64/N64 support Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-04  0:35       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-04 12:18         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-06  8:35           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-06  9:46             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-07  2:45               ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-07 12:57                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-08 14:21                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-08 19:54                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-09  5:38                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-09 16:47                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-27  2:16                           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-27 19:00                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-29 13:27                               ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-29 13:31                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-29 23:18                                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-30 11:32                                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-30 16:26                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-30 21:51                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-10-01  7:09                                           ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2013-10-01  7:48                                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-10-01  8:03                                               ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2013-10-01  8:55                                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-10-01  8:59                                                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-10-01  9:30                                                   ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2013-10-01 10:06                                                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-10-01 10:04                                                       ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2013-10-01 11:25                                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-10-01 11:56                                                           ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2013-10-07 18:47                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2013-10-07 19:39                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-10-08 23:03                                           ` Mark H Weaver
2013-10-09  6:53                                             ` Mark H Weaver
2013-10-09 10:42                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-10-09 10:39                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-10-10  4:08                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2013-09-30 16:09                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-29 15:49 ` Goals for 0.4 Amirouche Boubekki
2013-08-29 20:04   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-30 16:09     ` Cyprien Nicolas
2013-08-30 17:40       ` Amirouche Boubekki
2013-08-30 19:31       ` Overlays Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-30 20:42         ` Overlays Nikita Karetnikov
2013-08-30 21:21           ` Overlays Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-31 10:56             ` Overlays Amirouche Boubekki
2013-08-31 15:57               ` Overlays Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-29 20:42 ` Goals for 0.4 Andreas Enge
2013-08-29 21:32   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-25  8:43   ` Andreas Enge
2013-09-25 13:13     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-26 11:35       ` Andreas Enge
2013-09-28 13:25         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-29 21:29           ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2013-09-02 17:33 ` Cyril Roelandt
2013-09-02 19:38   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-02 19:40     ` Cyril Roelandt
2013-09-02 21:35       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-06  9:19 ` ‘--no-substitutes’ is ignored on i686 (was: Goals for 0.4) Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-06  9:59   ` ‘--no-substitutes’ is ignored on i686 Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-07  8:43     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-07 13:00       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-08 11:53         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-08 11:51           ` Cyril Roelandt
2013-09-08 13:22             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-24 21:59 ` Goals for 0.4 Ludovic Courtès

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