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From: Cyprien Nicolas <cyprien@nicolas.tf>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Goals for 0.4
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 18:09:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130830160948.GB5927@kubera.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eh9c9sb8.fsf@gnu.org>

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Il y a 20 heures, Ludovic Courtès écrivit :

> Amirouche Boubekki <amirouche.boubekki@gmail.com> skribis:
>
> > What about the possiblity to use overlays ?
>
> Could you elaborate?
>
> I hear this comes from the Gentoo jargon, but I’m not sure what
> that means.

I like the idea.  I'll try to elaborate myself, as a Gentoo user for
years ;-) I describe them from my own experience, official
documentation can be found there [1]

In Gentoo, ebuilds (the files that specify how to build a package from
source) are stored in the "portage tree", which is the official
repository.  The tree consists of directories, one per category, plus
one sub-directory par package, where package directories contains one
or more ebuilds, one ebuild per package version.  (plus some
additional files, like patches.)

"Portage" (the tool used to install packages from source, through the
"emerge" command) looks for ebuild in that directory, but it can also
looks from other directories which follow the same structure, those
directories are called "overlays", as they can mask packages from the
official tree, but also extend it.

They are plenty of overlays usage: experimental packages,
user-contributed packages, locally used packages for testing purposes…


However, overlay create new concerns.  First, priority of overlays, if
two provide the same package-version combination, which one to choose?
If Overlay A provide Package P, which depends on Library L, not in
Overlay A but in the "base" repository, and that Overlay B provide
a newer version of Library L, which L to choose?

Handling build failure of packages using overlays can be quite tricky
too. ;-)

And last, how and where to "centralize" overlays, in order to give
user a tool to easily add, remove, update overlays.


1. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/userguide.xml

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-30 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-29 12:34 Goals for 0.4 Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-29 13:16 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-08-29 13:36   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-30 17:55     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-08-30 18:31       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-31 16:40         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-08-31 18:05           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-31 20:34             ` Jose E. Marchesi
2013-08-31 21:07               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-01 23:16                 ` New ‘--list-generations’ and ‘--delete-generations’ options (was: Goals for 0.4) Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-02  9:08                   ` New ‘--list-generations’ and ‘--delete-generations’ options Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-05  1:30                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-05 20:00                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-05 21:14                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-07 19:34                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-08 10:59                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-08 20:22                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-09  9:17                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-09 16:55                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-11  5:16                                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-11 21:25                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-12  9:17                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-12 12:26                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-13 14:44                                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-13 21:29                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-16 11:12                                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-16 12:16                                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-18  0:43                                                     ` PRELIMINARY: [PATCH] guix package: Add '--list-generations' Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-18 17:35                                                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-18 21:32                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-19  0:49                                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-19  9:39                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-19 11:48                                                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-19 12:13                                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-21 20:39                                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-18 21:35                                                       ` PRELIMINARY: " Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-22 19:19     ` [PATCH] guix package: Add '--delete-generations' Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-22 20:15       ` Generation 0 (was: [PATCH] guix package: Add '--delete-generations'.) Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-22 21:15         ` Generation 0 Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-23 10:14           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-23 15:42             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24  0:54           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-24  5:56             ` [PATCH] guix package: Show which generation is the current one. (was: Generation 0) Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-24 12:45               ` [PATCH] guix package: Show which generation is the current one Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24 13:55                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-24 14:16                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-25  2:10                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-25 12:51                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24 12:43             ` Generation 0 Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24 22:29               ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-25 12:50                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-25 18:07                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-25 19:24                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-26  2:18                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-26  9:44                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-22 20:55       ` [PATCH] guix package: Add '--delete-generations' Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-23 10:11         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-23 15:41           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24  7:21             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-24 12:50               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-24 13:57                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-25  4:21             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-25 13:05               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-26  2:47                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-26  9:49                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-27 19:04                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-03 19:21   ` MIPS64/N64 support (was: Goals for 0.4) Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-03 20:45     ` MIPS64/N64 support Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-04  0:35       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-04 12:18         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-06  8:35           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-06  9:46             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-07  2:45               ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-07 12:57                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-08 14:21                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-08 19:54                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-09  5:38                       ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-09 16:47                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-27  2:16                           ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-27 19:00                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-29 13:27                               ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-29 13:31                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-29 23:18                                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-30 11:32                                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-30 16:26                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-30 21:51                                         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-10-01  7:09                                           ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2013-10-01  7:48                                             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-10-01  8:03                                               ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2013-10-01  8:55                                                 ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-10-01  8:59                                                   ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-10-01  9:30                                                   ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2013-10-01 10:06                                                     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-10-01 10:04                                                       ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2013-10-01 11:25                                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-10-01 11:56                                                           ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2013-10-07 18:47                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2013-10-07 19:39                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-10-08 23:03                                           ` Mark H Weaver
2013-10-09  6:53                                             ` Mark H Weaver
2013-10-09 10:42                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-10-09 10:39                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-10-10  4:08                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2013-09-30 16:09                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-29 15:49 ` Goals for 0.4 Amirouche Boubekki
2013-08-29 20:04   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-30 16:09     ` Cyprien Nicolas [this message]
2013-08-30 17:40       ` Amirouche Boubekki
2013-08-30 19:31       ` Overlays Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-30 20:42         ` Overlays Nikita Karetnikov
2013-08-30 21:21           ` Overlays Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-31 10:56             ` Overlays Amirouche Boubekki
2013-08-31 15:57               ` Overlays Ludovic Courtès
2013-08-29 20:42 ` Goals for 0.4 Andreas Enge
2013-08-29 21:32   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-25  8:43   ` Andreas Enge
2013-09-25 13:13     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-26 11:35       ` Andreas Enge
2013-09-28 13:25         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-29 21:29           ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2013-09-02 17:33 ` Cyril Roelandt
2013-09-02 19:38   ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-02 19:40     ` Cyril Roelandt
2013-09-02 21:35       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-06  9:19 ` ‘--no-substitutes’ is ignored on i686 (was: Goals for 0.4) Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-06  9:59   ` ‘--no-substitutes’ is ignored on i686 Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-07  8:43     ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-07 13:00       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-09-08 11:53         ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-08 11:51           ` Cyril Roelandt
2013-09-08 13:22             ` Nikita Karetnikov
2013-09-24 21:59 ` Goals for 0.4 Ludovic Courtès

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