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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Christopher Baines <mail@cbaines.net>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, guix-maintainers@gnu.org, guix-europe@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Discontinuing data.guix.gnu.org?
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 19:12:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jzoiz883.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87plzfziyh.fsf@cbaines.net> (Christopher Baines's message of "Sat, 09 Dec 2023 11:14:42 +0000")

Hello Christopher,

Christopher Baines <mail@cbaines.net> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

>> Christopher Baines <mail@cbaines.net> skribis:
>>
>>> As previously set out, I'm planning to stop hosting the data service
>>> instances this year. While I would like to stop hosting the server for
>>> data.guix.gnu.org,
>>
>> I forgot the outcome of previous discussions, but it seems to me that
>> the service itself and all the data it accumulated over the years are
>> super valuable.  I would be sad to see it go!
>
> There was a discussion back in April, but no action came directly from
> it.
>
> Just having data.qa.guix.gnu.org was discussed, and at least
> concentrating on getting to a sustainable hosting situation there seemed
> like a sensible priority. The longer history provided by
> data.guix.gnu.org does have value though in my view.
>
>> Is there something we can do to not lose it all?  It could be
>> distributing responsibility, reducing the scope, ensuring hosting is
>> managed collectively by the project, etc.  WDYT?
>
> Since that discussion, I have disabled the database dumps and backups,
> which has reduced (to 62€ per month) the hosting costs (although
> obviously not having backups isn't ideal). It's possible to further
> reduce the hosting costs as well by switching away from a VM to a
> physical machine at Hetzner.
>
> But yeah, given that having at least one data service instance is a key
> part of keeping the bordeaux build farm running, managing the hosting
> through the project seems to be the way to go. I'm just not sure how we
> can get there, or what I can do to move things in that direction.

Like you, I would have hoped for more reactions.  Unfortunately, I’m not
offering to help here because I have more than enough on my plate and
even a 1+ month backlog on guix-devel…

Maintainers, what’s your take on this?

Guix Foundation, is there any blocker to taking responsibility for
covering hosting expenses, possibly rediscussing the scope and cost?

Let 2024 be a thriving Guix year! :-)

Ludo’.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-09 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06 13:32 November/December update on qa.guix.gnu.org and related things Christopher Baines
2023-12-09 10:39 ` Discontinuing data.guix.gnu.org? Ludovic Courtès
2023-12-09 11:14   ` Christopher Baines
2024-01-09 18:12     ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2024-01-09 18:33       ` Julien Lepiller
2024-01-09 19:19         ` Gábor Boskovits
2024-01-10  0:38       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-12-09 10:54 ` Shutting down qa.guix? Ludovic Courtès
2023-12-09 12:16   ` Christopher Baines
2023-12-09 13:30     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2023-12-10 10:54       ` Christopher Baines
2023-12-10 16:05         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-12-11 13:30           ` Christopher Baines
2023-12-10 18:50   ` Simon Tournier
2023-12-13 16:43   ` RFC (was Re: Shutting down qa.guix?) Simon Tournier
2024-01-18 12:39   ` [Guix-europe-sac] Shutting down qa.guix? Andreas Enge
2024-01-20 12:57     ` Christopher Baines

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