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In-Reply-To: <87plzfziyh.fsf@cbaines.net> (Christopher Baines's message of "Sat, 09 Dec 2023 11:14:42 +0000") References: <87lea7jtlw.fsf@cbaines.net> <87msuj7j7o.fsf@gnu.org> <87plzfziyh.fsf@cbaines.net> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: =?utf-8?Q?D=C3=A9cadi?= 20 =?utf-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 232 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution=2C?= jour du Van X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 19:12:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87jzoiz883.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.52 X-Spam-Score: -8.52 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CE6B469294 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-TUID: ir3GTpxuArBz Hello Christopher, Christopher Baines skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: [...] >> Christopher Baines skribis: >> >>> As previously set out, I'm planning to stop hosting the data service >>> instances this year. While I would like to stop hosting the server for >>> data.guix.gnu.org, >> >> I forgot the outcome of previous discussions, but it seems to me that >> the service itself and all the data it accumulated over the years are >> super valuable. I would be sad to see it go! > > There was a discussion back in April, but no action came directly from > it. > > Just having data.qa.guix.gnu.org was discussed, and at least > concentrating on getting to a sustainable hosting situation there seemed > like a sensible priority. The longer history provided by > data.guix.gnu.org does have value though in my view. > >> Is there something we can do to not lose it all? It could be >> distributing responsibility, reducing the scope, ensuring hosting is >> managed collectively by the project, etc. WDYT? > > Since that discussion, I have disabled the database dumps and backups, > which has reduced (to 62=E2=82=AC per month) the hosting costs (although > obviously not having backups isn't ideal). It's possible to further > reduce the hosting costs as well by switching away from a VM to a > physical machine at Hetzner. > > But yeah, given that having at least one data service instance is a key > part of keeping the bordeaux build farm running, managing the hosting > through the project seems to be the way to go. I'm just not sure how we > can get there, or what I can do to move things in that direction. Like you, I would have hoped for more reactions. Unfortunately, I=E2=80=99= m not offering to help here because I have more than enough on my plate and even a 1+ month backlog on guix-devel=E2=80=A6 Maintainers, what=E2=80=99s your take on this? Guix Foundation, is there any blocker to taking responsibility for covering hosting expenses, possibly rediscussing the scope and cost? Let 2024 be a thriving Guix year! :-) Ludo=E2=80=99.