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From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauermann@kolabnow.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>,
	rb-general@lists.reproducible-builds.org,
	bootstrappable@freelists.org, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GNU Mes 0.24 released
Date: Sun, 08 May 2022 21:03:33 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ilqfo9a4.fsf@kolabnow.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k0axynso.fsf@gnu.org>


Hello,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> skribis:
>
>> Mes has now been ported to M2-Planet and can be bootstrapped using
>> stage0-posix[0], starting from the 357-byte hex0 binary of the
>> bootstrap-seeds[1], as was promised at FOSDEM'21[2].
>
> This is amazing… congrats to you & everyone involved!  You made it!  :-)
>
> The ability to build literally everything from source, with reproducible
> builds, is a game changer IMO when it comes to supply chain security.

Indeed, this is awesome!

> The common objection is: “you’re building from source but you’re not
> gonna audit all that source code anyway, so why bother?”  I think it’s
> akin to security by obscurity.  That we collectively can and do fiddle
> with all this code makes a practical difference; that this is all
> transparent means that backdoors become harder to hide.

I saw a project a while ago with an interesting approach that looks very
interesting for tackling this problem: crowd-sourced, social code
review:

https://github.com/crev-dev/crev

If many people review a piece of code and there's a system to record
those reviews, then it's possible to get a metric that is proportional
to the trustworthiness of said code.

It's a big task, but for unchanging code bases (such as the bootstrap
chain), it's a finite amount of work...

-- 
Thanks
Thiago


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-09  0:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-02 18:04 GNU Mes 0.24 released Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2022-05-07 22:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-05-07 23:11   ` Larry Doolittle
2022-05-08 13:55     ` Sébastien Lerique
2022-05-08 19:49       ` Larry Doolittle
2022-05-09 14:00     ` indieterminacy
2022-05-09  0:03   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann [this message]
2022-05-09 20:22     ` Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)

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