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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] gnu: Separate util-linux into three packages.
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 10:48:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h97abdel.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161113140647.GA10548@jocasta.intra> (John Darrington's message of "Sun, 13 Nov 2016 15:06:47 +0100")

John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au> skribis:

> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:59:50PM +0100, Ludovic Court??s wrote:
>      John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au> skribis:
>      
>      > On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:55:13PM +0100, Ludovic Court??s wrote:
>      
>      [...]
>      
>      >      > Also, it would only work if nfs-utils was installed in the current system profile,
>      >      > which need not be the case.  It might be installed only in root's profile or I might 
>      >      > want to see what happens if I use an alternative version of nfs-utils.
>      >      
>      >      That ???mount??? can invoke ???mount.nfs??? looks like a convenience to me, not
>      >      something highly critical.
>      >
>      > Well it's critical if "mount -a" is going to work, and thus if NFS filesystems (such as /home in
>      > many networks) can be automatically mounted at boot time.
>      
>      GuixSD doesn???t use the ???mount??? command to mount file systems so that
>      shouldn???t have any influence.
>
> What does it use instead?

The ‘mount’ system call; see (gnu build file-systems).

>      1,093 packages depend on util-linux.  Per the strategy outlined at
>      <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-10/msg00933.html>
>      this could go to ???staging??? but I think this should go to ???core-updates???
>      which we???ll reopen to fix <http://bugs.gnu.org/24703>.
>
> I'm irritated that util-linux has so many, completely unrelated things in it.  For example
> it contains the "mount", "cal" and "col" commands.    Regardless of the NFS issues, I 
> suggest we consider separating it anyway, into several packages all deriving from the common
> source.

The strategy is to stick to what upstream does, in general, and I’m not
convinced splitting would buy us much (in terms of disk usage, for
instance.)

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-14  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-10 21:14 [PATCH 1/4] gnu: Separate util-linux into three packages John Darrington
2016-11-10 21:14 ` [PATCH 2/4] gnu: nfs-utils: Change input from util-linux to util-linux/mount John Darrington
2016-11-10 21:14 ` [PATCH 3/4] gnu: Move util-linux/mount to new file and deal with the effects John Darrington
2016-11-10 21:14 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add fs-search paths to util-linux John Darrington
2016-11-11 14:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] gnu: Separate util-linux into three packages Hartmut Goebel
2016-11-11 16:03   ` John Darrington
2016-11-11 16:40     ` Hartmut Goebel
2016-11-11 19:36       ` John Darrington
2016-11-12 14:53 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-12 15:28   ` John Darrington
2016-11-12 17:09     ` John Darrington
2016-11-12 22:55       ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-13  8:21         ` John Darrington
2016-11-13 11:59           ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-13 14:06             ` John Darrington
2016-11-14  9:48               ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2016-11-14 17:46                 ` John Darrington
2016-11-15 10:46                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-16 21:06                     ` mount syscall John Darrington
2016-11-17  9:47                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-22 19:15                         ` [PATCH] gnu: Allow nfs filesystems to be automatically mounted John Darrington
2016-11-23 22:07                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-23 23:32                             ` John Darrington
2016-11-24 16:08                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-26  9:36                                 ` [PATCH] gnu: Allow nfs file systems " John Darrington
2016-11-26 18:37                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-26 19:33                                     ` John Darrington
2016-11-28 13:59                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-28 14:07                                         ` John Darrington
2016-11-28 21:05                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-29  6:27                                             ` John Darrington
2016-11-29 21:51                                               ` Ludovic Courtès

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