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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] gnu: Separate util-linux into three packages.
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John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au> skribis:

> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:59:50PM +0100, Ludovic Court??s wrote:
>      John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au> skribis:
>=20=20=20=20=20=20
>      > On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:55:13PM +0100, Ludovic Court??s wrote:
>=20=20=20=20=20=20
>      [...]
>=20=20=20=20=20=20
>      >      > Also, it would only work if nfs-utils was installed in the =
current system profile,
>      >      > which need not be the case.  It might be installed only in =
root's profile or I might=20
>      >      > want to see what happens if I use an alternative version of=
 nfs-utils.
>      >=20=20=20=20=20=20
>      >      That ???mount??? can invoke ???mount.nfs??? looks like a conv=
enience to me, not
>      >      something highly critical.
>      >
>      > Well it's critical if "mount -a" is going to work, and thus if NFS=
 filesystems (such as /home in
>      > many networks) can be automatically mounted at boot time.
>=20=20=20=20=20=20
>      GuixSD doesn???t use the ???mount??? command to mount file systems s=
o that
>      shouldn???t have any influence.
>
> What does it use instead?

The =E2=80=98mount=E2=80=99 system call; see (gnu build file-systems).

>      1,093 packages depend on util-linux.  Per the strategy outlined at
>      <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-10/msg00933.html>
>      this could go to ???staging??? but I think this should go to ???core=
-updates???
>      which we???ll reopen to fix <http://bugs.gnu.org/24703>.
>
> I'm irritated that util-linux has so many, completely unrelated things in=
 it.  For example
> it contains the "mount", "cal" and "col" commands.    Regardless of the N=
FS issues, I=20
> suggest we consider separating it anyway, into several packages all deriv=
ing from the common
> source.

The strategy is to stick to what upstream does, in general, and I=E2=80=99m=
 not
convinced splitting would buy us much (in terms of disk usage, for
instance.)

Ludo=E2=80=99.