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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: 宋文武 <iyzsong@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: use zsh as login shell
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 13:57:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egsjcyst.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vblyy9ia.fsf@gmail.com> ("宋文武"'s message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2014 11:24:13 +0800")

宋文武 <iyzsong@gmail.com> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> 宋文武 <iyzsong@gmail.com> skribis:
>>
>>> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

>> So, instead of what you suggest, what about having:
>>
>>   1. /etc/profile and /etc/zlogin (?) both source /etc/environment,
>>      which uses plain Bourne syntax.
>>
>>   2. PATH is defined in /etc/environment and includes
>>      ~/.guix-profile/bin.
> /etc/environment is defined by pam_env to be a simple KEY=VAL file, with no
> support for varibales substitute. If we do not use pam_env (linux specified?),
> I think we should let /etc/zlogin source /etc/profile instead.

Yes, but they would contain almost the same lines, right?  To what
extent is zsh Bourne- or Bash-compatible?  Does ‘export foo=bar’ work
for zsh?

If it does, let’s just keep /etc/profile, and use it for both zsh and
Bash.

> And we don't want /etc/zlogin when not using zsh at all,
> IIUC while skeletons is configurable at the top os-expr, /etc/zlogin is
> not. 

It’s OK to have a 2-KiB /etc/zlogin, even when one doesn’t use zsh.

>>   3. The skeleton for ~/.bash_profile sources /etc/profile, /etc/bashrc,
>>      and ~/.bashrc.
>>
>>   4. The definition of PS1 is moved from /etc/profile to /etc/bashrc.
>>
>>   5. The skeleton for ~/.bashrc sources /etc/bashrc.
> It seem too much, what I suggested is:
>     for login, su (pam_env): /etc/environment
>     for login shell:         ~/.bash_profile, ~/.zlogin
>     for interactive:         ~/.bashrc, ~/.zshrc
> skeletons only installed when needed :)

As a first step, what about always installing the skeletons?  Then we
can see whether/how to refine that.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-01 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-27 15:58 use zsh as login shell 宋文武
2014-11-27 20:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-28 15:06   ` 宋文武
2014-11-28 22:26     ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-29  3:24       ` 宋文武
2014-12-01 12:57         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2014-12-02 14:43           ` 宋文武
2014-12-04 23:10             ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-12-05  5:11               ` Mark H Weaver
2014-12-05 18:54                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-12-05 11:21               ` 宋文武
2014-12-06  8:04                 ` use zsh and fish " 宋文武
2014-12-06 15:09                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-28 15:11   ` use zsh " 宋文武
2014-12-05 13:57 ` 宋文武
2014-12-06 22:35   ` /etc/profile and .zshrc skeleton Ludovic Courtès
2014-12-07  4:06     ` 宋文武
2014-12-07 20:35       ` Ludovic Courtès

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