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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr>
To: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tricking peer review
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 09:12:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bl3i6ebp.fsf@inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YXChleYXTD3QrC9a@jasmine.lan> (Leo Famulari's message of "Wed, 20 Oct 2021 19:09:09 -0400")

Hi,

Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> skribis:

> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 08:54:09PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> The trick is easy: we give a URL that’s actually 404, with the hash of a
>> file that can be found on Software Heritage (in this case, that of
>> ‘grep-3.4.tar.xz’).  When downloading the source, the automatic
>> content-addressed fallback kicks in, and voilà:
> [...]
>> Thoughts?
>
> It's a real risk... another illustration that our security model trusts
> committers implicitly (not saying that's a bad thing or even avoidable).
>
> In years past I mentioned a similar technique but based on using
> old/vulnerable versions of security-critical packages like OpenSSL. The
> same approach would have worked since we started using Nix's
> content-addressed mirror.

Right.  Like zimoun wrote, the SWH fallback makes this even more
stealthily exploitable.

>> It’s nothing new, it’s what I do when I want to test the download
>> fallbacks (see also ‘GUIX_DOWNLOAD_FALLBACK_TEST’ in commit
>> c4a7aa82e25503133a1bd33148d17968c899a5f5).  Still, I wonder if it could
>> somehow be abused to have malicious packages pass review.
>
> Nice feature! Sorry if this was already suggested, but is it possible to
> create an argument to this variable that disallows use of the fallback
> mechanisms? I would certainly use that while reviewing and testing my
> own patches.

Yes, you can do “GUIX_DOWNLOAD_FALLBACK_TEST=none” (added in
bd61d62182bfda4a695757ec66810b28e8e1a6d0).

Thanks,
Ludo’.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-21  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-15 18:54 Tricking peer review Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-15 22:03 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-15 22:28   ` Ryan Prior
2021-10-15 22:45     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-15 22:59       ` Ryan Prior
2021-10-18  7:40     ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:56       ` Ryan Prior
2021-10-19  8:39       ` zimoun
2021-10-20 23:03         ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-21  8:14           ` zimoun
2021-10-15 23:13   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2021-10-18  7:47     ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18  7:34   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-19  8:36 ` zimoun
2021-10-19 12:56   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-19 14:22     ` zimoun
2021-10-19 15:41       ` Incentives for review Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-19 16:56         ` zimoun
2021-10-19 19:14         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2021-10-19 19:34           ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2021-10-19 19:50           ` Joshua Branson
2021-10-21 20:03           ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-20 21:37         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2021-10-21 13:38           ` Artem Chernyak
2021-10-22 20:03             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2021-10-23  1:43               ` Kyle Meyer
2021-10-23  3:42                 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2021-10-23  7:37                 ` zimoun
2021-10-23 16:18                   ` public-inbox/elfeed -> Maildir bridge (was: Incentives for review) Kyle Meyer
2021-10-24 12:18                   ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-10-21 16:06           ` Incentives for review Ricardo Wurmus
2021-10-21 16:32             ` zimoun
2021-10-22 20:06             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2021-10-21 15:07         ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2021-10-21 16:10           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2021-10-21 17:52             ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2021-10-21 18:21             ` Arun Isaac
2021-10-21 19:58               ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-21 21:42               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2021-10-22 10:48                 ` Arun Isaac
2021-10-22 11:21                   ` zimoun
2021-10-23  6:09                     ` Arun Isaac
2021-10-22 10:56                 ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-10-22  7:40               ` zimoun
2021-10-22 11:09                 ` Arun Isaac
2021-10-22  8:37               ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-10-22  9:15                 ` zimoun
2021-10-22 10:40                 ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-10-22 11:32                   ` zimoun
2021-10-21 21:18             ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-10-22 10:44               ` Arun Isaac
2021-10-22 11:06               ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-10-21 21:22           ` zimoun
2021-10-28 14:57             ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2021-10-21 17:51         ` Vagrant Cascadian
2021-10-24 11:47           ` Efraim Flashner
2021-10-20  8:22   ` Tricking peer review Giovanni Biscuolo
2021-10-20  9:10     ` zimoun
2021-10-20  8:29   ` patches for new packages proper workflow (Re: Tricking peer review) Giovanni Biscuolo
2021-10-20 23:09 ` Tricking peer review Leo Famulari
2021-10-21  7:12   ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2021-10-25 13:09 ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2021-10-28  8:38   ` Ludovic Courtès

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