From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
To: guix-devel@gnu.org
Cc: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>, Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@freenet.de>
Subject: Re: Frequent locales problems for new users
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 17:22:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875zf1k4z2.fsf@nckx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eetp8zx1.fsf@gnu.org>, <20200318091248.c489e70495a0e5c21f1e9694@freenet.de>
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Ludo', Thorsten, Leo,
Ludovic Courtès 写道:
> Well, we still need to be able to install locales somehow,
> right? :-)
This isn't about removing all locale packages, just the
poorly-named -utf8- variant.
Thorsten Wilms 写道:
> smaller than glibc-locales, but still sufficient for many cases.
> Is that wrong?
Yes and no. It's sufficient for many (but not most) humans, but
then that's true for ar_AE as well ;-)
Here's what it contains:
de_DE.utf8 el_GR.utf8 en_US.utf8 fr_FR.utf8 tr_TR.utf8
Offering this as our only choice of ‘sufficient’ user locales has
some unpleasant cultural overtones to say the least.
Where it is useful, and apparently does cover the majority of use
cases, is in test suites &c. It's a good package for machines.
Hiding it would make that clear, as we already do with
tzdata-for-tests.
Ludovic Courtès 写道:
> As for ‘glibc-utf8-locales’ vs. ‘glibc-locales’: the reason for
> choosing
> the former by default over the latter is size (14 MiB vs. 917
> MiB).
> Perhaps an improvement would be for ‘glibc-utf8-locales’ to be
> more true
> to its name: to include all the UTF-8 locales glibc supports
> rather than
> an arbitrary sample thereof.
That would make it well-named, so good by me!
Kind regards,
T G-R
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-18 16:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-17 20:28 Frequent locales problems for new users Leo Famulari
2020-03-18 7:47 ` Efraim Flashner
2020-03-18 8:12 ` Thorsten Wilms
2020-03-18 16:22 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice [this message]
2020-03-18 15:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-18 18:36 ` Leo Famulari
2020-03-21 15:37 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-03-21 18:02 ` Gábor Boskovits
2020-03-21 19:43 ` Leo Famulari
2020-03-21 20:14 ` Leo Famulari
2020-03-26 12:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-07-01 18:02 ` Vagrant Cascadian
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