Re: Audacity has new administration

[Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu>]

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Hello Bone Baboon,

thank you for pointing this facts but how many times do we have (I mean
me and you) to discuss about telemetry to be assured it's never enabled
by default in Guix... and if not that's a bug? :-)

Bone Baboon <bone.baboon@disroot.org> writes:

[...]

> # Audacity's new administration
>
> Audacity has new administration.  Based on these announcements Audacity
> is now part of Muse Group.
>
> May 3 2021 this announcement was made on Audacity's website
> <https://www.audacityteam.org/audacity-musescore-announcement/>

This is "old news" and this should not be an issue by itself.

[...]

> * The introduction of telemetry
>   <https://github.com/audacity/audacity/pull/835>

Already discussed, see below

[...]

> * The introduction of a contributor license agreement
>   <https://github.com/audacity/audacity/discussions/932>

Can I say that's not a Guix problem? :-)

AFAIU The Muse Group intentions are that Audacity it's going to be
GPLv3+, that's even better than GPLv2... good luck Muse Group!

> * A new privacy policy

That's relevant only for people using telemetry (off by default); AFAIU
privacy policies are not covered by FSDG: am I wrong?

[...]

> The introduction of telemetry has been discussed here
> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2021-05/msg00246.html>.

As you say, we already had recent discussions about telemetry:

- https://yhetil.org/guix-devel/875yzme70r.fsf@disroot.org/
  «Free software telemetry and the Guix System»

  in particurar Mark H Weaver reply
  https://yhetil.org/guix-devel/87sg2pjib3.fsf@netris.org/

  "Telemetry is strictly optional and disabled by default."

- https://yhetil.org/guix-devel/87fsxm7s69.fsf@disroot.org/
  «Telemetry on by default kitty»

  il particurar the fact that there is general consensus among Guix
  maintainers that phoning home should be disabled by default in all
  FSDG compliant packages

I'm not following discussions on GitHub on telemetry but AFAIU the
situation has not changed since we had the above mentioned discussions:
am I wrong?

In general, we can take as granted that if we find a package in Guix
with telemetry enabled by default we can consider it a bug a file a
proper bug report so it can be fixed if possible or the package removed
if not.

> # Audacity Forks

[...]

> It is probably to early to tell which if any of the Audacity forks are
> going to be maintained over an extended period of time.
>
> # Guix and Audacity

[...]

> Before the next update of the version of Audacity that Guix packages
> it would probably be a good idea to reassess the situation with Muse
> Group's Audacity and the Audacity forks.

I think the situation it's already clear enough to agree there is no
issue with the introduction of optional telemetry in Aucacity in
particular and with telemetry in Guix in general.

Happy hacking! Gio'

-- 
Giovanni Biscuolo

Xelera IT Infrastructures

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