From: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Sarthak Shah <shahsarthakw@gmail.com>, Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: A Forum for Guix Users
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 13:54:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86v8dbxn5i.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADBZEVn_DKTUdZ50typiCF=SsLcmbFtxTgXCP166cfawHNo_3g@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 19:22, Sarthak Shah <shahsarthakw@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we should seriously consider having a user forum similar to
> Debian's User Forum or Nixos' Discourse.
Well, I shared my opinion in the other thread:
A Forum for Guix Users
from Distopico <distopico@riseup.net>
Tue, 18 Jul 2023 06:45:16 -0500
https://yhetil.org/guix/87bkg9wigq.fsf@riseup.net
with my message 86a5unz4ap.fsf@gmail.com.
And to be explicit: do not count on me for interacting with Discourse.
For two reasons:
1. Because I have never find the way to deal with it with intermittent
internet connection. How do you deal with such forum in batch-mode?
More than often, I process (read and/or answer) the volume of Guix
messages off-line. As I am doing right now. :-) For example, before
going to somewhere without internet connection (meeting or else) and
because I know that I will have some slots of free time (boring meeting
or else), well I just fetch the last messages, and then I process the
messages. Once back to some internet connection, I send all my
replies.
Without that batch-mode feature, I would not just read most of the
messages and probably I would never answer. For example, today I am
not following Haskell or OCaml or Python because Discourse forces me
the way of interaction. Well, because I find that way so boring: open
my web-browser, click, no filter, etc., I am scrolling only the
Discourse of OCaml once per month or so. Maybe I have missed the
offline procedure because I have not checked Discourse features since
last months (years?).
2. Because I find insane to have such resource-hungry client/server
configuration for only exchanging small pieces of text.
Instead of calling to require more for doing the same (or sometimes
even less) but using more resource, I am calling to the opposite: doing
more with less. I strongly think we must collectively reflect on how
to do using less. We have to drastically decrease the global CO2
footprint and every gram counts.
Obviously, we have to be welcoming. For sure we have to think and
re-think and think again and again about the best ways to be welcoming
and helpful. However, I disagree that Discourse or similar will bring
something on the table. Well, I will not bet that people currently
helping in mailing lists would continue to provide answers using
Discourse and I will not bet that instead new experienced users would
answer to question on Discourse.
There is a trade-off between newcomer’s expectations about the way to
get help and experienced users who provide such help. I fear that
switching to Discourse could indeed meet newcomer’s expectations but
loosing those experienced users.
Cheers,
simon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-19 14:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-13 13:52 A Forum for Guix Users Sarthak Shah
2023-07-13 14:05 ` Robby Zambito
2023-07-13 15:21 ` Csepp
2023-07-14 11:31 ` Msavoritias
2023-07-15 13:43 ` Attila Lendvai
2023-07-15 21:00 ` MSavoritias
2023-07-16 5:55 ` Julien Lepiller
2023-07-15 2:45 ` kiasoc5
2023-07-15 13:59 ` Attila Lendvai
2023-07-15 13:14 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2023-07-14 21:10 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-07-15 13:27 ` Attila Lendvai
2023-07-16 10:33 ` Pjotr Prins
2023-07-16 23:30 ` Csepp
2023-07-17 17:41 ` Attila Lendvai
2023-07-17 7:37 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-07-17 8:17 ` MSavoritias
2023-07-17 20:29 ` Csepp
2023-07-13 14:40 ` Andrea Rossi
2023-07-13 22:38 ` vidak
2023-07-17 7:58 ` Etienne B. Roesch
2023-08-19 12:47 ` Simon Tournier
2023-07-18 1:52 ` Wilko Meyer
2023-07-18 16:39 ` Nguyễn Gia Phong via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-07-18 21:12 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-08-19 11:54 ` Simon Tournier [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-07-14 20:19 Andy Tai
2023-07-14 21:17 ` Sarthak Shah
2023-07-14 21:26 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-07-14 22:12 ` Wojtek Kosior via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-07-14 23:50 ` Nguyễn Gia Phong via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-07-21 13:30 ` 宋文武
2023-07-18 11:45 Distopico
2023-07-21 8:37 ` Etienne B. Roesch
2023-07-23 16:17 ` Ahmed Khanzada
2023-07-24 2:41 ` Csepp
2023-08-19 10:59 ` Simon Tournier
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