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From: Jan Wielkiewicz <tona_kosmicznego_smiecia@interia.pl>
To: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
Cc: Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution
	<guix-devel@gnu.org>, Ryan Prior <ryanprior@hey.com>
Subject: Re: Latest Nyxt features a GUI for Guix :)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 17:06:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201112170631.6a4c1858@interia.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871rgzgcdx.fsf@ambrevar.xyz>

Dnia 2020-11-12, o godz. 10:20:10
Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> napisał(a):

> Ryan Prior <ryanprior@hey.com> writes:
> 
> > On November 11, 2020, Jan Wielkiewicz
> > <tona_kosmicznego_smiecia@interia.pl> wrote:
> >> [web browsers are] a really poorly designed copy of
> >> operating systems and its utilities.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> I just don't understand why in the web browser.
> >> I'll try it.
> >
> > The web browser is the primary operating environment for a lot of
> > people. Just as Emacs users built web browsers, terminal emulators,
> > and mail clients on the Emacs platform, the web platform also has
> > all those things (including various elaborate in-browser code
> > editors.) So I understand this as having the exact same genesis as
> > the Guix interface in Emacs: people would like to manage their
> > operating system using the interface they spend most of their time
> > in, and for Nyxt power users that would be their browser. I'm not
> > at all interested in managing my Guix packages using Nyxt, which is
> > highly correlated to my not being a Nyxt power user.
> 
> Exactly :)

I see.

> To add to what Ryan said, Nyxt has a interesting design feature: it
> does not need to depend on a web browser!  

If this is the case, then I have nothing against it. I just don't like
when programs depend on things they don't need to, like a calculator
app written in <insert JS framework> with 500MB of dependencies in
node_modules and Chromium. This isn't a joke, this is the reality we're
living in.

> Nyxt is rather a 
> "Common Lisp interactive framework" and it would be perfectly possible
> to implement a textual interface à-la Emacs.  Of course, web page
> rendering would be much more limited though.
> 
> I'd like to work on a pure GTK (or <insert-your-fav-toolkit-here>)
> version of Nyxt at some point.
> 

Nice.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-12 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-11 14:41 Latest Nyxt features a GUI for Guix :) Pierre Neidhardt
2020-11-11 14:42 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-11-11 18:50   ` Bengt Richter
2020-11-12  9:21     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-11-11 17:21 ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2020-11-11 18:35   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-11-11 21:56     ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2020-11-11 22:08       ` Ryan Prior
2020-11-12  9:20         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-11-12 16:06           ` Jan Wielkiewicz [this message]
2020-11-12 16:10             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-11-12 20:46           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-11-13  8:53             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-11-12  8:51       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-11-12 16:00         ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2020-11-12 17:21           ` Ricardo Wurmus

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