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* bug#67649: shepherd: (shepherd support) is visible for start GEXP
@ 2023-12-05 20:10 Attila Lendvai
  2024-03-21 14:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Attila Lendvai @ 2023-12-05 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 67649

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the facts:
----------

start GEXP's of services are loaded into unnamed modules. the definitions from (shepherd support) are visible in these unnamed modules. see the attached rerpoducer.

it can be run with:

$(guix system --no-graphic vm reproducer.scm)

and in the VM (must use fold, because it's a dumb terminal):

cat /var/log/messages | fold -150

and observe that (shepherd support) is listed.


questions:
----------

is this indended? i.e. part of the shepherd API?

if not, then this is probably a bug. looking at the public definitions in (shepherd support), it's not obvious that those are meant to be available for the users of shepherd. either way, this should probably be documented with at least a comment at the top of the file.

if this is intended, then where is this module imported? i looked all around, and i can't seem to find what mechanism imports this support module into the unnamed module that are used for the GEXPs.


my ultimate issue:
------------------

my service code has conflicting definitions with (shepherd support), and i need to know the intent in the shepherd API to decide on the proper fix.

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• attila lendvai
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;; Run with something like this:
;; $(guix system --no-graphic vm reproducer.scm)

(define-module (reproducer)
  #:use-module (gnu system)
  #:use-module (gnu system shadow)
  #:use-module (gnu system nss)
  #:use-module (gnu system vm)
  #:use-module (gnu tests)
  #:use-module (gnu services)
  #:use-module (gnu services base)
  #:use-module (gnu services dbus)
  #:use-module (gnu services shepherd)
  #:use-module (gnu packages admin)
  #:use-module (gnu packages base)
  #:use-module (gnu packages bash)
  #:use-module (gnu packages certs)
  #:use-module (gnu packages package-management)
  #:use-module (gnu packages linux)
  #:use-module (guix gexp)
  #:use-module (guix git)
  #:use-module (guix git-download)
  #:use-module (guix store)
  #:use-module (guix modules)
  #:use-module (guix packages)
  #:use-module (srfi srfi-1)
  #:use-module (ice-9 match))

(operating-system
  (inherit %simple-os)
  (services
   (cons*
    (simple-service
     'reproducer
     shepherd-root-service-type
     (list
      (shepherd-service
       (requirement '(file-systems))
       (provision '(reproducer))
       (documentation "")
       (start
        #~(begin
            (lambda _
              (format #t "*** reproducer gexp speaking, \
current module: ~A, \
module-uses: ~A, \
ringbuffer: ~A~%"
                      (current-module)
                      (module-uses (current-module))
                      (and=> (module-variable (current-module) 'ring-buffer) variable-ref))
              0))))))
    %base-services)))

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* bug#67649: shepherd: (shepherd support) is visible for start GEXP
  2023-12-05 20:10 bug#67649: shepherd: (shepherd support) is visible for start GEXP Attila Lendvai
@ 2024-03-21 14:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2024-03-31 14:20   ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2024-03-21 14:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Attila Lendvai; +Cc: 67649

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Hi,

Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name> skribis:

> start GEXP's of services are loaded into unnamed modules. the definitions from (shepherd support) are visible in these unnamed modules. see the attached rerpoducer.

It’s more than (shepherd support):

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
shepherd[1]: Starting service reproducer...
shepherd[1]: *** reproducer gexp speaking, current module: #<module (#{ g107}#) 7f2cf85a1be0>, mor
face (oop goops) 7f2cf8a89c80> #<interface (shepherd service) 7f2cf8526780> #<interface (srfi srf)
 7f2cf8a898c0> #<interface (system repl error-handling) 7f2cf85a18c0> #<custom-interface (guix buc
alls) 7f2cf7ac2be0> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7ac2280> #<custom-interface (gnu b 
file-systems) 7f2cf7b671e0> #<interface (gnu system file-systems) 7f2cf7b258c0> #<custom-interface
 (gnu build file-systems) 7f2cf7b670a0> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7b67000> #<cusi
nterface (gnu build file-systems) 7f2cf7b8ef00> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7b8ee67
b8edc0> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7b8ed20> #<custom-interface (guix build utils)c
f7b8ec80> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7b8ebe0> #<custom-interface (guix build util7
f2cf7b8e8c0> #<interface (gnu system accounts) 7f2cf7b8e640> #<custom-interface (guix build utils2
cf8606d20> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf8606c80> #<interface (gnu build linux-boot) 
7f2cf8606be0> #<interface (ice-9 popen) 7f2cf8606960> #<interface (ice-9 rdelim) 7f2cf8a42f00> #<r

608c0> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7adfe60> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7
f2cf7adfd20> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7adfc80> #<custom-interface (guix build u)
 7f2cf7adfbe0> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7adfb40> #<custom-interface (guix build 
utils) 7f2cf7adfa00> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7adf960> #<custom-interface (guixl
d utils) 7f2cf7adf8c0> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7adf820> #<custom-interface (gui
x build utils) 7f2cf7adf6e0> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7adf640> #<custom-interfag
uix build utils) 7f2cf7adf5a0> #<custom-interface (guix build utils) 7f2cf7adf500> #<custom-interr
fi srfi-26) 7f2cf8e83f00> #<custom-interface (shepherd support) 7f2cf7adf3c0> #<custom-interface x
 build utils) 7f2cf7adf320> #<interface (ip addr) 7f2cf7adf000> #<interface (ip link) 7f2cf7f3ed2(
ice-9 format) 7f2cf9fed6e0>), ringbuffer: #<procedure ring-buffer (size)>
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

> is this indended? i.e. part of the shepherd API?

It’s not really intended.

In Guix, ‘shepherd-service’ instances have a ‘modules’ field.  Many,
like the one for mcron, have (shepherd support) there because they need
it for one thing or another.

Now, your ‘reproducer’ service has a default ‘modules’ field so why does
it see those modules anyway?

First, note that (current-module) called from the ‘start’ method does
*not* return the module where that ‘start’ method was defined.

Still, what we see here is that the module in which the shepherd config
file is evaluated has way more imports than expected.  This stems from
the way services get loaded on Guix System, in
‘shepherd-configuration-file’:

        (register-services
         (parameterize ((current-warning-port
                         (%make-void-port "w")))
           (map load-compiled '#$(map scm->go files))))

Thus, each one of ‘files’ augments the imports of the current module,
eventually leading to this import soup.

This is a Guix bug we can fix by loading each service file in a fresh
module:


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diff --git a/gnu/services/shepherd.scm b/gnu/services/shepherd.scm
index f5bcde721f..6b8527f0dc 100644
--- a/gnu/services/shepherd.scm
+++ b/gnu/services/shepherd.scm
@@ -383,6 +383,14 @@ (define (shepherd-configuration-file services shepherd)
           (use-modules (srfi srfi-34)
                        (system repl error-handling))
 
+          (define (make-user-module)
+            ;; Copied from (shepherd support), where it's private.
+            (let ((m (make-fresh-user-module)))
+              ;; The typical configuration file wants to do '(service ...)', and
+              ;; '(register-services ...)', so provide the relevant bindings by default.
+              (module-use! m (resolve-interface '(shepherd service)))
+              m))
+
           ;; There's code run from shepherd that uses 'call-with-input-file' &
           ;; co.--e.g., the 'urandom-seed' service.  Starting from Shepherd
           ;; 0.9.2, users need to make sure not to leak non-close-on-exec file
@@ -416,7 +424,12 @@ (define (shepherd-configuration-file services shepherd)
               (register-services
                (parameterize ((current-warning-port
                                (%make-void-port "w")))
-                 (map load-compiled '#$(map scm->go files))))))
+                 (map (lambda (file)
+                        (save-module-excursion
+                         (lambda ()
+                           (set-current-module (make-user-module))
+                           (load-compiled file))))
+                      '#$(map scm->go files))))))
 
           (format #t "starting services...~%")
           (let ((services-to-start

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There might be breakage due to services that currently get the modules
they need “by chance” (as a side effect of loading another module), but
at least this small sample works fine:

  make check-system TESTS="basic openssh nginx static-networking static-networking-advanced mcron hpcguix-web" -j4

I’ll push the patch soonish.

Thanks!

Ludo’.

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* bug#67649: shepherd: (shepherd support) is visible for start GEXP
  2024-03-21 14:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2024-03-31 14:20   ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2024-03-31 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Attila Lendvai; +Cc: 67649-done

Hi,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> skribis:

> This is a Guix bug we can fix by loading each service file in a fresh
> module:

[...]

> I’ll push the patch soonish.

Pushed as 6f9d844d2ece7b369d17bbe678978462425f869c last week.

Thanks!

Ludo’.




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