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From: Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu>
To: 36611@debbugs.gnu.org, help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: bug#36611: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:26:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9A077709-1700-4649-8099-F5ADEBFD0023__5062.75456152565$1562930841$gmane$org@lepiller.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4554CC85-A1DE-4E43-BBD6-898B9558FEE7@lepiller.eu>

Le 12 juillet 2019 11:29:49 GMT+02:00, Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> a écrit :
>Le 12 juillet 2019 11:04:00 GMT+02:00, racin@free.fr a écrit :
>>(Cross-posting to help-guix as it may be more appropriate) 
>>
>>I now have two additional issues: 
>>
>>13. My profile disappeared once again and guix package does not work
>>anymore (it says "guix package: error: unsupported manifest format").
>I
>>realize that my .guix-profile/etc/profile file has been emptied. 
>>Maybe I had a problem during an upgrade, but aren't guix upgrades
>>supposed to be atomic? 
>>
>>14. Also, my X server hangs unless I force the BIOS to use the
>>"discrete card", which uses more power. My laptop uses an hyprid
>>intel/nvidia configuration, is this supported by guix? 
>>
>>Thanks, 
>>Matthieu 
>>
>>
>>
>>De: "racin" <racin@free.fr> 
>>À: "bug-guix" <bug-guix@gnu.org> 
>>Envoyé: Vendredi 12 Juillet 2019 00:32:37 
>>Objet: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues 
>>
>>Hi Guix! 
>>
>>I have just installed (successfully?) my first guix system! 
>>
>>As a newcomer (I know system administration quite well, but never used
>
>>guix before) I thought that I could share my experience (i.e. issues I
>
>>had ;)) installing Guix. Probably some of the issues are obvious once 
>>you know Guix well, but they aren't when, like me, you don't. I hope 
>>using this list for this post is not inappropriate. 
>>
>>I did not find any solution for some of the issues yet, so I would 
>>also welcome help on those! 
>>
>>So, here is the list of issues I had. 
>>
>>1. An easy one: on a new computer, you now have to desactive this 
>>secure boot thingy, else the live CD won't boot. As I understand it 
>>the guix live CD is not "signed", which was the reason why it did not 
>>boot (while other live CDs did). This may sound obvious, except for 
>>people whose previous computer was still using the BIOS; so maybe it 
>>would be worth writing this in the installation instructions? 
>>
>>2. I had a lot of trouble understanding how profile worked; 
>>consequently I think I installed a lot of versions of different 
>>packages, which took ages. 
>>
>>After a while, I understood that 
>>
>>- guix pull creates a new profile, but is not used by default: why? 
>>Similarly, guix kept telling me that I should do 
>>
>># GUIX_PROFILE="/home/matthieu/.guix-profile" 
>># . "$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile" 
>>
>>So my question is: shouldn't the default .bashrc uses the newest 
>>guix command from guix pull, and contain these lines above? 
>>
>>- sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm is very different from 
>>sudo su; guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm. 
>>
>>This is written explicitly in the documentation, so that was clear, 
>>but I fell into the trap. 
>>
>>- guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm (without sudo) fails at a 
>>very late stage. Maybe this command should issue a warning when not 
>>run with root rights? 
>>
>>
>>3. At one time it seems that my entire user profile disappeared (maybe
>
>>I shut down my laptop at a wrong time). I had to reinstall every 
>>package I had installed with guix package -i. 
>>
>>4. I followed the initial exemple configuration of "A graphical system
>
>>with a choice of lightweight window managers", but it did not contain 
>>any terminal emulator. 
>>
>>5. I installed Icecat but I am missing some fonts: some websites do 
>>not display properly (e.g. numbers do not show up), even if I untick 
>>"do not load custom fonts" (unticking this improves things a bit). So 
>>I believe some more font package should be installed with icecat. 
>>
>>6. I had issues with gdm and lightdm, so I installed the xinit package
>
>>to start X sessions manually. But it seems that startx/xinit looks for
>
>>a X server in the same path than the xinit binary, which won't work on
>
>>guix. 
>>
>>7. nm-applet fails with this warning Failed to add/activate
>connection:
>>(1) Not authorized to control networking. 
>>I have to do sudo nm-applet to have it working (but it works well,
>wifi
>>and wired) 
>>
>>8. Is there an equivalent to apt-file, e.g. a way to know in which 
>>packages a file would be located? This would be very useful, for 
>>instance I had trouble finding where the latex executable is 
>>located, or ghc complaining about finding linux/errno.h when I 
>>wanted to install xmonad. The problem is even more important for 
>>guix, as in other systems the dependencies eventually show up in 
>>your profile (e.g. installing texlive-latex-beamer would install 
>>the latex binary), whereas in guix you have to explicitely install 
>>the right package in Guix. 
>>
>>9. nm-applet cannot find the right icon sets, so it uses a "forbidden 
>>sign" icon everywhere (which is a bit scary). The error I get is 
>>
>>failed to load icon "nm-stage03-connecting11": Icon 
>>'nm-stage03-connecting11' not present in theme Adwaita 
>>
>>so I guess some icon are missing; I tried to install 
>>gnome-icon-theme with no luck. 
>>
>>10. My latest problem happened when I tried to install slim (but the 
>>problem remains when I switch back to gdm or tried to use a previous 
>>system configuration, which surprised me). Now when I boot, I have a 
>>"gdm" user that was created and which attemps to log 505 times, which 
>>freezes my computer for 2 minutes (I I try to use it at the same 
>>times, it hangs). My work-around is to switch to the console and wait 
>>that all these unsuccessful connection stops, but this is not 
>>ideal... 
>>
>>11. Before I found this work-around I tried to fix the problem by 
>>booting + chrooting from another OS, a solution I have often used to 
>>fix my OS but could not do on guix... Which scares me a bit because I 
>>fill that I have no easy way to fix my OS if it was broken. Is there 
>>an easy way to do that in guix? 
>>
>>12. I also remember that the installer said something like "I will 
>>erase the whole disk and you would loose all your data", while I used 
>>the manual partitionning scheme and asked to format only one 
>>partition, and this was a bit scary. 
>>
>>Wow, that was a long list. Obviously I did not write about everything 
>>that went well during the installation, so thanks for your hard work! 
>>By posting this, I just hope that it will help new users to have less 
>>problems to solve in the future! 
>>
>>Thanks, 
>>Matthieu 
>>
>>
>>PS: here is my config.scm file 
>>
>>;; This is an operating system configuration generated 
>>;; by the graphical installer. 
>>
>>(use-modules (gnu)) 
>>(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg) 
>>(use-modules (nongnu packages linux)) 
>>(use-modules (srfi srfi-1)) ; for remove 
>>
>>(operating-system 
>>(locale "en_US.utf8") 
>>(timezone "Europe/Paris") 
>>(keyboard-layout 
>>(keyboard-layout "us" "altgr-intl")) 
>>(kernel linux) 
>>(firmware (cons* iwlwifi-firmware %base-firmware)) 
>>(bootloader 
>>(bootloader-configuration 
>>(bootloader grub-efi-bootloader) 
>>(target "/boot/efi") 
>>(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout))) 
>>(file-systems 
>>(cons* (file-system 
>>(mount-point "/") 
>>(device 
>>(uuid "7dd68b9b-26ba-47f7-aa82-3469060d2936" 
>>'ext4)) 
>>(type "ext4")) 
>>(file-system 
>>(mount-point "/boot/efi") 
>>(device (uuid "90D1-BAAF" 'fat32)) 
>>(type "vfat")) 
>>%base-file-systems)) 
>>(host-name "x1") 
>>(users (cons* (user-account 
>>(name "matthieu") 
>>(comment "Matthieu") 
>>(group "users") 
>>(home-directory "/home/matthieu") 
>>(supplementary-groups 
>>'("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "video"))) 
>>%base-user-accounts)) 
>>(packages 
>>(append 
>>(list (specification->package "xmonad") 
>>(specification->package "awesome") 
>>(specification->package "dmenu") 
>>(specification->package "tlsdate") ; for initial time adjustment 
>>(specification->package "nss-certs")) 
>>%base-packages)) 
>>(services 
>>(append 
>>(list (service openssh-service-type) 
>>
>>(set-xorg-configuration 
>>(xorg-configuration 
>>(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout))) 
>>
>>(service slim-service-type (slim-configuration 
>>(display ":0") 
>>(vt "vt6"))) 
>>
>>) 
>>
>>(remove (lambda (service) 
>>(eq? (service-kind service) gdm-service-type)) 
>>
>>
>>%desktop-services 
>>
>>)))) 
>
>Before you change anything, can you post your .guix-profile/manifest
>file? Maybe it will help us understand what's going on on your side.
>You're actually the second user we hear that from, but we thought they
>might have tried to install things in parallel. It could explain some
>of your symptoms too, but not the manifest issue.
>
>Whenever guix started acting crazy for me, it was because of a disk
>failure or corruption. You should probably try to run fsck on your root
>partition.

Matthieu if you can read me, note that your email provider (free) rejected my email to you with "spam detected".

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-12 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-11 22:32 bug#36611: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues racin
2019-07-12  9:04 ` racin
2019-07-12  9:29   ` Julien Lepiller
2019-07-12 11:26     ` Julien Lepiller [this message]
2019-07-14 13:59     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-12 12:40   ` racin
2019-07-14 14:04   ` bug#36611: Disappearing profile? Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-16  7:42     ` racin
2019-07-16 20:56       ` Ludovic Courtès

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