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From: Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu>
To: 36611@debbugs.gnu.org, racin@free.fr, help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: bug#36611: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:29:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4554CC85-A1DE-4E43-BBD6-898B9558FEE7@lepiller.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834194262.1058652910.1562922240277.JavaMail.zimbra@free.fr>

Le 12 juillet 2019 11:04:00 GMT+02:00, racin@free.fr a écrit :
>(Cross-posting to help-guix as it may be more appropriate) 
>
>I now have two additional issues: 
>
>13. My profile disappeared once again and guix package does not work
>anymore (it says "guix package: error: unsupported manifest format"). I
>realize that my .guix-profile/etc/profile file has been emptied. 
>Maybe I had a problem during an upgrade, but aren't guix upgrades
>supposed to be atomic? 
>
>14. Also, my X server hangs unless I force the BIOS to use the
>"discrete card", which uses more power. My laptop uses an hyprid
>intel/nvidia configuration, is this supported by guix? 
>
>Thanks, 
>Matthieu 
>
>
>
>De: "racin" <racin@free.fr> 
>À: "bug-guix" <bug-guix@gnu.org> 
>Envoyé: Vendredi 12 Juillet 2019 00:32:37 
>Objet: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues 
>
>Hi Guix! 
>
>I have just installed (successfully?) my first guix system! 
>
>As a newcomer (I know system administration quite well, but never used 
>guix before) I thought that I could share my experience (i.e. issues I 
>had ;)) installing Guix. Probably some of the issues are obvious once 
>you know Guix well, but they aren't when, like me, you don't. I hope 
>using this list for this post is not inappropriate. 
>
>I did not find any solution for some of the issues yet, so I would 
>also welcome help on those! 
>
>So, here is the list of issues I had. 
>
>1. An easy one: on a new computer, you now have to desactive this 
>secure boot thingy, else the live CD won't boot. As I understand it 
>the guix live CD is not "signed", which was the reason why it did not 
>boot (while other live CDs did). This may sound obvious, except for 
>people whose previous computer was still using the BIOS; so maybe it 
>would be worth writing this in the installation instructions? 
>
>2. I had a lot of trouble understanding how profile worked; 
>consequently I think I installed a lot of versions of different 
>packages, which took ages. 
>
>After a while, I understood that 
>
>- guix pull creates a new profile, but is not used by default: why? 
>Similarly, guix kept telling me that I should do 
>
># GUIX_PROFILE="/home/matthieu/.guix-profile" 
># . "$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile" 
>
>So my question is: shouldn't the default .bashrc uses the newest 
>guix command from guix pull, and contain these lines above? 
>
>- sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm is very different from 
>sudo su; guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm. 
>
>This is written explicitly in the documentation, so that was clear, 
>but I fell into the trap. 
>
>- guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm (without sudo) fails at a 
>very late stage. Maybe this command should issue a warning when not 
>run with root rights? 
>
>
>3. At one time it seems that my entire user profile disappeared (maybe 
>I shut down my laptop at a wrong time). I had to reinstall every 
>package I had installed with guix package -i. 
>
>4. I followed the initial exemple configuration of "A graphical system 
>with a choice of lightweight window managers", but it did not contain 
>any terminal emulator. 
>
>5. I installed Icecat but I am missing some fonts: some websites do 
>not display properly (e.g. numbers do not show up), even if I untick 
>"do not load custom fonts" (unticking this improves things a bit). So 
>I believe some more font package should be installed with icecat. 
>
>6. I had issues with gdm and lightdm, so I installed the xinit package 
>to start X sessions manually. But it seems that startx/xinit looks for 
>a X server in the same path than the xinit binary, which won't work on 
>guix. 
>
>7. nm-applet fails with this warning Failed to add/activate connection:
>(1) Not authorized to control networking. 
>I have to do sudo nm-applet to have it working (but it works well, wifi
>and wired) 
>
>8. Is there an equivalent to apt-file, e.g. a way to know in which 
>packages a file would be located? This would be very useful, for 
>instance I had trouble finding where the latex executable is 
>located, or ghc complaining about finding linux/errno.h when I 
>wanted to install xmonad. The problem is even more important for 
>guix, as in other systems the dependencies eventually show up in 
>your profile (e.g. installing texlive-latex-beamer would install 
>the latex binary), whereas in guix you have to explicitely install 
>the right package in Guix. 
>
>9. nm-applet cannot find the right icon sets, so it uses a "forbidden 
>sign" icon everywhere (which is a bit scary). The error I get is 
>
>failed to load icon "nm-stage03-connecting11": Icon 
>'nm-stage03-connecting11' not present in theme Adwaita 
>
>so I guess some icon are missing; I tried to install 
>gnome-icon-theme with no luck. 
>
>10. My latest problem happened when I tried to install slim (but the 
>problem remains when I switch back to gdm or tried to use a previous 
>system configuration, which surprised me). Now when I boot, I have a 
>"gdm" user that was created and which attemps to log 505 times, which 
>freezes my computer for 2 minutes (I I try to use it at the same 
>times, it hangs). My work-around is to switch to the console and wait 
>that all these unsuccessful connection stops, but this is not 
>ideal... 
>
>11. Before I found this work-around I tried to fix the problem by 
>booting + chrooting from another OS, a solution I have often used to 
>fix my OS but could not do on guix... Which scares me a bit because I 
>fill that I have no easy way to fix my OS if it was broken. Is there 
>an easy way to do that in guix? 
>
>12. I also remember that the installer said something like "I will 
>erase the whole disk and you would loose all your data", while I used 
>the manual partitionning scheme and asked to format only one 
>partition, and this was a bit scary. 
>
>Wow, that was a long list. Obviously I did not write about everything 
>that went well during the installation, so thanks for your hard work! 
>By posting this, I just hope that it will help new users to have less 
>problems to solve in the future! 
>
>Thanks, 
>Matthieu 
>
>
>PS: here is my config.scm file 
>
>;; This is an operating system configuration generated 
>;; by the graphical installer. 
>
>(use-modules (gnu)) 
>(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg) 
>(use-modules (nongnu packages linux)) 
>(use-modules (srfi srfi-1)) ; for remove 
>
>(operating-system 
>(locale "en_US.utf8") 
>(timezone "Europe/Paris") 
>(keyboard-layout 
>(keyboard-layout "us" "altgr-intl")) 
>(kernel linux) 
>(firmware (cons* iwlwifi-firmware %base-firmware)) 
>(bootloader 
>(bootloader-configuration 
>(bootloader grub-efi-bootloader) 
>(target "/boot/efi") 
>(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout))) 
>(file-systems 
>(cons* (file-system 
>(mount-point "/") 
>(device 
>(uuid "7dd68b9b-26ba-47f7-aa82-3469060d2936" 
>'ext4)) 
>(type "ext4")) 
>(file-system 
>(mount-point "/boot/efi") 
>(device (uuid "90D1-BAAF" 'fat32)) 
>(type "vfat")) 
>%base-file-systems)) 
>(host-name "x1") 
>(users (cons* (user-account 
>(name "matthieu") 
>(comment "Matthieu") 
>(group "users") 
>(home-directory "/home/matthieu") 
>(supplementary-groups 
>'("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "video"))) 
>%base-user-accounts)) 
>(packages 
>(append 
>(list (specification->package "xmonad") 
>(specification->package "awesome") 
>(specification->package "dmenu") 
>(specification->package "tlsdate") ; for initial time adjustment 
>(specification->package "nss-certs")) 
>%base-packages)) 
>(services 
>(append 
>(list (service openssh-service-type) 
>
>(set-xorg-configuration 
>(xorg-configuration 
>(keyboard-layout keyboard-layout))) 
>
>(service slim-service-type (slim-configuration 
>(display ":0") 
>(vt "vt6"))) 
>
>) 
>
>(remove (lambda (service) 
>(eq? (service-kind service) gdm-service-type)) 
>
>
>%desktop-services 
>
>)))) 

Before you change anything, can you post your .guix-profile/manifest file? Maybe it will help us understand what's going on on your side. You're actually the second user we hear that from, but we thought they might have tried to install things in parallel. It could explain some of your symptoms too, but not the manifest issue.

Whenever guix started acting crazy for me, it was because of a disk failure or corruption. You should probably try to run fsck on your root partition.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-12  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-11 22:32 bug#36611: Installation of a new guix system -- summaries of the issues racin
2019-07-12  9:04 ` racin
2019-07-12  9:29   ` Julien Lepiller [this message]
2019-07-12 11:26     ` Julien Lepiller
2019-07-14 13:59     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-12 12:40   ` racin
2019-07-14 14:04   ` bug#36611: Disappearing profile? Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-16  7:42     ` racin
2019-07-16 20:56       ` Ludovic Courtès

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