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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com>
Cc: iyzsong@gmail.com, 20255@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile.
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 00:48:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87im1ywq64.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8735t3d3wf.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex Kost's message of "Sun, 27 Jun 2021 12:59:28 +0300")

Hi Alex,

Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:

> Maxim Cournoyer (2021-06-25 22:37 -0400) wrote:
>
> [...]
>> Do you still have a vetted interest in the issue at hand?  This is a
>> serious usability problem that's been in limbo for 6 years, apparently
>> for reasons of purity (not wanting to run a command in /etc/profile).
>> While I share the sentiment that /etc/profile would better be 'inert' or
>> static, it seems we haven't been able to come up with a better solution
>> than calling 'guix package --search-paths'.  Like Ludovic, I also don't
>> find the idea of allowing users to override /etc/profile very appealing;
>> even if undocumented, its mere presence in the operating-system field
>> would be an invitation for problems.  An environment variable to disable
>> such basic functionality also seems backward to me.
>>
>> I would personally be in favor of committing the fix as-is.  If < 1 s of
>> wasted time on boot is an issue, I suggest to look into GNU Shepherd to
>> offset it; optimization opportunities should abound :-).
>
> I can modify /etc/profile with any "normal" linux distribution but I
> cannot do it with the Guix System.  And I find it awful that you think
> it should stay like that.  I am for providing as much freedom for a user
> (to configure their system) as possible.
> The current /etc/profile is bearable for me, but if you add a "guix ..."
> call there without providing a way to modify that file, I will probably
> stop using the Guix System.
>
> Or maybe there is a hacky way to change /etc/profile ?  If so, please
> share a code how this can be done.  (Then I will not complain anymore)

Thanks for the reply!  I just wanted to make sure the extra energy to be
spent on the search & implementation of a better solution would not be
in vain; now I that know that it won't!

I like the idea proposed by Leo Prikler; the one about giving the
possibility to users to override the list of default profiles considered
under a file such as ~/.config/guix/default-profiles.

The default would be to load both combine the environment variables of
the system and user profiles using 'guix package --search-paths', but a
user could opt-out of that by providing an empty file, or customize the
list of profiles the way they'd like.

Would that be an acceptable solution from your point of view?

Thank you,

Maxim




  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-28  4:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-04 10:29 bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile 宋文武
2015-04-04 21:04 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-05  3:39   ` 宋文武
2015-04-05 18:15     ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-06  4:02       ` 宋文武
2015-04-06  8:24         ` Mark H Weaver
2015-05-02 22:12         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-19 22:32           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-20 22:42             ` Alex Kost
2015-11-21  8:57               ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-21 18:41                 ` Alex Kost
2015-11-21 20:10                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-22  7:52                     ` Alex Kost
2015-11-22 10:52                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-22 18:44                         ` Alex Kost
2015-11-22 23:04                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-23 11:55                             ` Alex Kost
2015-11-23 14:31                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-24 17:22                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-30  9:08                         ` Alex Kost
2015-11-30 12:25                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-04 21:44     ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-05  8:28       ` 宋文武
2015-05-05 12:35         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-06 16:35         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-12 11:13       ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-21 15:53 ` bug#20255: (old)bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profiles zimoun
2020-02-21 17:18   ` Alex Kost
2021-06-26  2:37     ` bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile Maxim Cournoyer
2021-06-26  5:59       ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-28  4:35         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-06-28  6:58           ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-27  9:59       ` Alex Kost
2021-06-28  4:48         ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2021-06-29 17:29           ` Alex Kost
2020-12-18 20:27   ` bug#20255: «the Oldest» [PATCH] 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profiles zimoun
2023-05-12 12:34     ` bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile 宋文武 via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-15 13:53       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-05-15 17:14       ` Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-15 17:46         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-05-16  9:37           ` Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-16 11:00             ` 宋文武 via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04 ` bug#20255: [PATCH 1/4] home: shells: Merge search-paths of multiple profiles iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04   ` bug#20255: [PATCH 2/4] system: default-skeletons: Set up Guix home profile when it exists iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04   ` bug#20255: [PATCH 3/4] system: Only source system profile's settings in '/etc/profile' iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04   ` bug#20255: [PATCH 4/4] news: Add entry for '/etc/profile' changes iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix

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