From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
To: Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net>,
"Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu>
Cc: 57878@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57878: Minimal reproducible setup
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:42:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6873fe86a05a548e7427d2de7df04a27a967713a.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m17d1iskc0.fsf@fastmail.net>
Am Sonntag, dem 02.10.2022 um 10:25 +0200 schrieb Konrad Hinsen:
> As for Liliana's idea of disabling deferred compilation : shouldn't
> it be sufficient to have all Emacs Lisp packages in Guix AOT-
> compiled?
From personal experience, no. Even if you compile code ahead of time,
there seem to be some leftovers that are deferred. guix-emacs.el is an
oversight, but apart from that I also other leftovers (possibly from
init.el?)
> There would be nothing left to compile in deferred mode. A quick scan
> of the relevant page on Emacs Wiki
> (https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GccEmacs) suggests that some package
> manager do this.
In Guix, this is more or less a user choice – we advertised the
transformation by which you can opt-in to AOT compilation in a news
entry. Also, enforcing ahead-of-time compilation does not fix the more
pressing issue of packages breaking with native compilation ;)
To quote Eli:
> More generally, we never expected people who have Emacs with native
> compilation available to want to disable it. It made no sense to us
> during development of Emacs 28, and frankly, it still doesn't, at
> least to me.
I think this reasoning really falls flat in presence of any non-Emacs
package manager. Like, obviously wanting to natively compile packages
managed by (dpkg, rpm, pacman, emerge, guix), but not natively
compiling a random elisp script you just downloaded from the web is a
legitimate use case.
Cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-12 19:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-17 9:09 bug#57878: Emacs native compilation on startup can crash the system Konrad Hinsen
2022-09-17 10:28 ` bug#57878: Minimal reproducible setup Konrad Hinsen
2022-09-17 15:45 ` Konrad Hinsen
2022-09-17 23:19 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-09-18 18:35 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-09-19 6:04 ` Konrad Hinsen
2022-09-19 8:51 ` Konrad Hinsen
2022-10-02 0:15 ` Thompson, David
2022-10-02 0:23 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-02 8:25 ` Konrad Hinsen
2022-10-12 19:42 ` Liliana Marie Prikler [this message]
2022-10-13 9:31 ` Max Brieiev
2022-10-13 18:23 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-14 16:07 ` zimoun
2022-10-14 18:22 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-15 10:11 ` zimoun
2022-10-15 14:40 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-15 15:40 ` zimoun
2022-10-15 16:30 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-25 16:23 ` Max Brieiev
2022-10-25 18:31 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-10-26 7:46 ` zimoun
2022-10-11 10:04 ` zimoun
2022-10-13 10:06 ` Max Brieiev
2023-10-12 14:50 ` bug#57878: Emacs native compilation on startup can crash the system Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-14 14:37 ` Konrad Hinsen
2022-12-09 14:30 ` bug#57878: Some further investigation Konrad Hinsen
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