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[85.127.52.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t21-20020a170906609500b007402796f065sm1747057ejj.132.2022.10.12.12.42.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 12 Oct 2022 12:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6873fe86a05a548e7427d2de7df04a27a967713a.camel@gmail.com> From: Liliana Marie Prikler Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:42:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <12eb8b51fe6c9508517e19bdeed923c389cafe1f.camel@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1665603846; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=L1Ccn01DGvzAcCZzKKinl6d7G0G2LVJ9Si425saJqjk=; b=EYOH5qlXN/Vhamgc/0raGQVCJwyeyJXnytYwPVHHavbv59EKtnoWqgD++ve8dZNN05LELU 4yInOsxAf3rtWNF+V/HrhWYuLGmR3F4sOuSgZ1DbaqkqiaRUmUAKk8WsMkW+nKFtNFc0d7 eK7DB9Vxxu9DPzW4aoXGtpI81RiWWJCT+nEUUzAw80zdvW13VIWhOTJAdz45mJUn0mThIB u5FCeh9W0A59izw53trnowRVcvf1qXLAbiHqWFrlPLgMFbno2MhKp/tsVPZzBRTmytW5lg eSFANDf/Es166ercbqbGEd98k3v00zBdGEbxR2T4I3mh9AFS2xVX6lnTR9qIJg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1665603846; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=gXUtyg0zB/PjE7b7SPxASUSpHQ2RLEo7t7gGTIad8ciP+IhOYwNJYD7yC/d4ahjYBhECsE ZlZbLAt0mHWwqIjj03xozYCEnQjT3HCA1/RpDUpQKkBdWZa6XalIvn/Xaan8PjBtQybjX4 3zQj9/0/ry1REA3wKso1u8Ag2rz6NY/QpG78wBKsOY621TrOIBY/1P9L/ICP0FCsM+Q+5P pWqIzWlfSKzhyLCieZDeLwGL4V1Szqrz+oCc0tz3fREQJxhGWmboc8MrV8tdcmVN8rdpJb upLRMgo0iz6c3MRcSq3hS8z6O25mcTDFq6sRqRK/IuauSuxI2oOapGbx0zJmOw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=UkxSWBTI; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 6.10 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=UkxSWBTI; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D73643D243 X-Spam-Score: 6.10 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: gHAAvnl3tnTK Am Sonntag, dem 02.10.2022 um 10:25 +0200 schrieb Konrad Hinsen: > As for Liliana's idea of disabling deferred compilation : shouldn't > it be sufficient to have all Emacs Lisp packages in Guix AOT- > compiled? >From personal experience, no. Even if you compile code ahead of time, there seem to be some leftovers that are deferred. guix-emacs.el is an oversight, but apart from that I also other leftovers (possibly from init.el?) > There would be nothing left to compile in deferred mode. A quick scan > of the relevant page on Emacs Wiki > (https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GccEmacs) suggests that some package > manager do this. In Guix, this is more or less a user choice =E2=80=93 we advertised the transformation by which you can opt-in to AOT compilation in a news entry. Also, enforcing ahead-of-time compilation does not fix the more pressing issue of packages breaking with native compilation ;) To quote Eli: > More generally, we never expected people who have Emacs with native > compilation available to want to disable it. It made no sense to us > during development of Emacs 28, and frankly, it still doesn't, at > least to me. I think this reasoning really falls flat in presence of any non-Emacs package manager. Like, obviously wanting to natively compile packages managed by (dpkg, rpm, pacman, emerge, guix), but not natively compiling a random elisp script you just downloaded from the web is a legitimate use case. Cheers