From: bo0od <bo0od@riseup.net>
To: Leo Prikler <leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at>, 47846@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 18:02:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2387b53d-e086-9d44-ef7e-9f99a02e7920@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0f96ce30982303f0dfc6eb716a2b42527d3c2800.camel@student.tugraz.at>
> It is common enough for desktop PCs and laptops, which is the use case
> I'm talking about here.
The entire feature im requesting is not for common things but for
specific use cases.
> I'm fairly certain you should be able to get test environments, that
> fit this size via `guix environment', but if that's your plan, you
> shouldn't do much else with the space you have.
Im not sure im following how this solve the issue im describing.
> Might I ask if you're
> the kind to keep a separate /home?
No, I use everything default and try finding enhancements,bugs after
that. (bugs easier to be reproduced by others when you have strange
behaviors).
> though of
> course, Debian, Arch, Gentoo etc. are all different distributions, that
> produce it as a side-effect of what they're actually trying to do.
"as a side-effect" not sure what do you mean.
> How did other distributions "adopt this feature" in your opinion?
Not sure how is this question correct as other distributions doesnt have
rollback/generations..etc options in order to adopt anything from others
except NixOS which i didnt yet asked them about this (I hope i wont be
forced to use Nix instead of Guix).
Good projects to look at which are actually rolling distros:
Voidlinux(xbps)<- Good starting point/features, Arch(pacman).
Worth mentioning: Kali(apt), Gentoo(portage).
And if Nix going to provide such a similar feature then that would be
interested to check on as well (maybe easier way to see it as well
implemented within guix).
Leo Prikler:
> Hi,
>
> Am Sonntag, den 18.04.2021, 18:45 +0000 schrieb bo0od:
>> > My bad, I meant to type 500GB (a fairly common disk size), but it
>> turns
>> > out my other laptop survives quite fine on 250. Fair enough, it's
>> not
>> > 32GB (common in phones), but then again, you'd run normally very
>> > different packages on embedded systems.
>>
>> yeah 100+ GB thats too big, not always having this space is easy or
>> available.
> It is common enough for desktop PCs and laptops, which is the use case
> I'm talking about here. If you're hosting a server, chances also are,
> that you have that much, if not more space available. For cases, in
> which you have significantly less memory available, there is a bare-
> bones template.
>
>> > There are several ways of optimizing for profile size, one of
>> which is
>> > to not run huge browsers like icecat. I have no idea what kind of
>> > system you're trying to fit into 20GB , but a hard idea thinking
>> it's
>> > the right kind.
>>
>> I have debian,fedora,kali,ubuntu,trisquel/triskel,arch... all with
>> only
>> 20GB space and working for testing purposes as im mostly working as
>> software tester.
> I'm fairly certain you should be able to get test environments, that
> fit this size via `guix environment', but if that's your plan, you
> shouldn't do much else with the space you have. Might I ask if you're
> the kind to keep a separate /home?
>
>> > What kind of advanced removal strategies are you talking about?
>>
>> I didnt suggested how its done in my ticket, I gave the issue and
>> feature request as a solution to it but how to do it the best way i
>> leave this to the devs to decide not me.
> "Please remove all my previous stuff whenever I upgrade a package" is a
> rather specific feature request in my opinion. I don't think there is
> much room for bikeshedding different implementations of it, though of
> course, Debian, Arch, Gentoo etc. are all different distributions, that
> produce it as a side-effect of what they're actually trying to do.
>
>> If out of ideas and nothing is available look at other distributions
>> and
>> see how its done and what can be taken from them and merge into guix
>> to
>> adopt this feature.
> How did other distributions "adopt this feature" in your opinion?
>
> Regards,
> Leo
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-19 18:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-17 18:29 bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations bo0od
2021-04-17 19:24 ` Leo Famulari
2021-04-17 20:05 ` Leo Prikler
2021-04-18 14:40 ` bo0od
2021-04-18 15:39 ` Leo Prikler
2021-04-18 18:45 ` bo0od
2021-04-18 19:28 ` Leo Prikler
2021-04-19 18:02 ` bo0od [this message]
2021-04-17 20:07 ` Maxime Devos
2021-04-18 10:00 ` Maxime Devos
2021-04-18 17:43 ` bo0od
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