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From: Alex Sassmannshausen <alex.sassmannshausen@gmail.com>
To: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de>
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>, guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] Guile Hall 0.3.0 released
Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 22:55:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wo5acmd6.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lflqtnv8.fsf@web.de>

Hi Arne,

Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de> writes:

> Catonano <catonano@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Overall, I'd say this:
>>
>> […]
>>
>> There is level 0 of Guile packaging: that's NO packaging. You keep your
>> files scattered around and they will be autocompiled
>> In the future, there could be a level 2. That is: no m4 anymore !! As fas
>> as I undertsand the Autoconf based machinery relies on bash to execute
>> tests (is such library available ? Is Guile version >= 2.7 ?)
>
> Autoconf is intended to be bootstrappable with minimal dependencies.
> It needs some shell. At some point gash might be a suitable option.

Right.  This is what autotools brings to the table right? A super
minimalist, dependable and portable installation process.

Having a fully Guile bootstrap using tools such as gash would be
amazing.  It shouldn't lose us meaningful portability I suppose, because
these tools would work anywhere where Guile works, and we're talking
about distributing Guile libraries & applications in the first place!

> m4 is just a very simple templating language. Should not be too hard
> to implement it in Guile.

Again, this has come up in the past.  I love the idea of having a Guile
way to do the work that m4, autoreconf and automake do — I think any
piecemeal or module work towards this would super valuable.

I hope for now, in the absence of those things existing, having Hall
provide a kludgy bridge between autotools and Guile might be the best of
both worlds…

Cheers,

Alex



  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-17 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-16 15:41 [ANN] Guile Hall 0.3.0 released Alex Sassmannshausen
2020-05-16 16:14 ` Jack Hill
2020-05-16 16:22 ` Catonano
2020-05-16 20:57   ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2020-05-17  5:13     ` Catonano
2020-05-17 15:35       ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2020-05-17 17:37         ` Catonano
2020-05-17 18:31           ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-05-17 20:55             ` Alex Sassmannshausen [this message]
2020-05-18  5:43               ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2020-05-17 20:48           ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2020-05-18 16:19             ` Catonano
2020-05-20 11:45               ` Catonano
2020-05-20 11:46                 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2020-05-20 15:58                   ` Catonano
2020-05-21 10:00                     ` Catonano
2020-05-21 10:03                       ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2020-05-22  5:16                         ` Catonano
2020-05-24 21:22                           ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2020-05-25  6:31                             ` Catonano
2020-05-25  7:13                               ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2020-05-25  7:51                                 ` Catonano
2020-05-26 14:37                                   ` Catonano
2020-05-27 20:52                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-28  5:01                               ` Catonano
2020-05-28 12:32                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-28 12:35                                   ` Catonano
2020-05-28 15:54                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-28 17:26                                       ` Catonano
2020-05-29  8:27                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-29  9:09                                           ` Catonano
2020-05-29 10:52                                             ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2020-05-17 16:36       ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-05-17 20:40         ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2020-05-17 20:21 ` Jérémy Korwin-Zmijowski
2020-05-18 15:43 ` Nala Ginrut

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