ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[Marius Vollmer]

I have cleaned up guile-gtk a bit and started the new guile-gtk-1.2
branch.  That variant of guile-gtk supports only Gtk+-1.2 and works
without Gnome.

Get it here:

  http://www.zagadka.ping.de/guile-gtk/latest.html

The current version 0.31 supports the upcoming Guile-1.6.1 as well as
Guile from CVS HEAD.

Have fun!

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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[Dale P. Smith]

On 03 Sep 2002 19:39:53 +0200
Marius Vollmer <mvo@zagadka.ping.de> wrote:

> I have cleaned up guile-gtk a bit and started the new guile-gtk-1.2
> branch.  That variant of guile-gtk supports only Gtk+-1.2 and works
> without Gnome.
> 
> Get it here:
> 
>   http://www.zagadka.ping.de/guile-gtk/latest.html
> 
> The current version 0.31 supports the upcoming Guile-1.6.1 as well as
> Guile from CVS HEAD.
> 
> Have fun!

WhooHoo!  I can't wait!

Thanks!

-Dale 


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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[tomas]

On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 07:39:53PM +0200, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> I have cleaned up guile-gtk a bit and started the new guile-gtk-1.2
> branch.  That variant of guile-gtk supports only Gtk+-1.2 and works
> without Gnome.

Sorry for the mee-too, but...

   *YEAH!*

(ahhh, I feel better now ;-)

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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[rm]

On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 07:39:53PM +0200, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> I have cleaned up guile-gtk a bit and started the new guile-gtk-1.2
> branch.  That variant of guile-gtk supports only Gtk+-1.2 and works
> without Gnome.
> 
> Get it here:
> 
>   http://www.zagadka.ping.de/guile-gtk/latest.html
> 
> The current version 0.31 supports the upcoming Guile-1.6.1 as well as
> Guile from CVS HEAD.
> 
> Have fun!

Oh, i will! Thank's a lot <insert arbitrary expressions of exitement here>!

  Ralf

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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[Clinton Ebadi]

On Tuesday 03 September 2002 13:39, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> I have cleaned up guile-gtk a bit and started the new guile-gtk-1.2
> branch.  That variant of guile-gtk supports only Gtk+-1.2 and works
> without Gnome.

Are you going to work any on guile-gobject any? I talked to Ariel and he said 
he couldn't get it to work with the latest Gtk+ (it segfaults somewhere). 
I've tried to debug it myself, but I can't figure out why it is dying 
(unknown_lamer != best programmer/debugger in the world).

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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[Marius Vollmer]

Clinton Ebadi <unknown_lamer@unknownlamer.org> writes:

> Are you going to work any on guile-gobject any?

No, I don't think so.  I'm basically happy with guile-gtk.  Maybe I'll
join the Gtk+-2.0 bandwagon, but maybe not.

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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[Jose Ariel Rios Osorio]

On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 16:22, Clinton Ebadi wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 September 2002 13:39, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> > I have cleaned up guile-gtk a bit and started the new guile-gtk-1.2
> > branch.  That variant of guile-gtk supports only Gtk+-1.2 and works
> > without Gnome.
> 
> Are you going to work any on guile-gobject any? I talked to Ariel and he said 
> he couldn't get it to work with the latest Gtk+ (it segfaults somewhere). 
> I've tried to debug it myself, but I can't figure out why it is dying 
> (unknown_lamer != best programmer/debugger in the world).

I have a mail I wrote for Martin Baulig asking for help. He has not
answer it but might help us:

Hi Martin!

I'd been doing some work trying to get guile-gobject back to work.
I have made some progress but now I am stuck.
Gobject seems to work but I cannot register a GtkObject.

If you look in gtk.scm we have:

(define gtktype:object (gtype-from-name "GtkObject"))
(define gtktype:widget (gtype-from-name "GtkWidget"))
(define gtktype:window (gtype-from-name "GtkWindow"))
(define gtktype:label  (gtype-from-name "GtkLabel"))
(define gtktype:misc   (gtype-from-name "GtkMisc"))

I can succesfully register gtkype:object
but when we arrive to the next line that defines gtktype:widget
the code segfaults. I have track it and when we run 
(init-gobject-class) from gobject.scm the methods are not able to bind
the address of the new object with the class in some way altho I am not
really sure.

You can see that i have commented your implementation of
(init-gobect-class) and replaced it with a version of mine that does not
run the code that causes the error.

I would gladly apreciate some help with this problem. 



cheers,
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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[Jose Ariel Rios Osorio]

On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 14:06, tomas@fabula.de wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 07:39:53PM +0200, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> > I have cleaned up guile-gtk a bit and started the new guile-gtk-1.2
> > branch.  That variant of guile-gtk supports only Gtk+-1.2 and works
> > without Gnome.
> 
> Sorry for the mee-too, but...
> 
>    *YEAH!*
> 
> (ahhh, I feel better now ;-)
If someone is interested I will be releasing new gnome-guile 
next week

ariel




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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[Dale P. Smith]

On 03 Sep 2002 18:48:46 -0500
jrios@elektra.com.mx (Jose Ariel Rios Osorio) wrote:

> On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 14:06, tomas@fabula.de wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 07:39:53PM +0200, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> > > I have cleaned up guile-gtk a bit and started the new guile-gtk-1.2
> > > branch.  That variant of guile-gtk supports only Gtk+-1.2 and works
> > > without Gnome.
> > 
> > Sorry for the mee-too, but...
> > 
> >    *YEAH!*
> > 
> > (ahhh, I feel better now ;-)
> If someone is interested I will be releasing new gnome-guile 
> next week

Nah, just guile-gtk please. ;^)

-Dale


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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[tomas]

On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 06:48:46PM -0500, Jose Ariel Rios Osorio wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 14:06, tomas@fabula.de wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 07:39:53PM +0200, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> > > I have cleaned up guile-gtk a bit and started the new guile-gtk-1.2
> > > branch.  That variant of guile-gtk supports only Gtk+-1.2 and works
> > > without Gnome.

[...]

> If someone is interested I will be releasing new gnome-guile 
> next week
> 
Yes, of course I'm interested. This is how I see it from my
(limited) point of view:

Gtk is independent of gnome. This is a Good Thing, a question
of software layering. I think there should be gtk-only guile
bindings and gnome guile bindings. They serve different purposes.
If it is possible to layer the gnome bindings on top of the
gtk bindings, then it's paradise, but still -- if not, we *do*
need the gtk-only bindings.

And by `gtk-only' I mean it should be possible to download
the gtk package, compile it, compile guile, compile the gtk
bindings, done (not needing tools from gnome and friends,
just the stuff considered `standard', like gcc, make &c.).
In other words, use, build and development with guile-gtk
should not depend on guile-gnome. The reverse might be
true (I think it'd be even desirable, in the sense of
good software layering).

But I'd *love* to see guile-gnome thriving (imagine writing
desktop applets in guile, or controlling your window manager
with guile -- that's the kind of things guile was for in the
first place).

Regards, and thanks for the fish ;-)

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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[Dale P. Smith]

On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:16:47 +0200
tomas@fabula.de wrote:

> And by `gtk-only' I mean it should be possible to download
> the gtk package, compile it, compile guile, compile the gtk
> bindings, done (not needing tools from gnome and friends,
> just the stuff considered `standard', like gcc, make &c.).
> In other words, use, build and development with guile-gtk
> should not depend on guile-gnome. The reverse might be
> true (I think it'd be even desirable, in the sense of
> good software layering).

Yes! I think this is very important.  Gnome has it's place, but it
shouldn't be a burden to those who don't want or can't support a gnome
development environment.

-Dale

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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[Bill Gribble]

On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 06:36, Dale P.Smith wrote:
> Yes! I think this is very important.  Gnome has it's place, but it
> shouldn't be a burden to those who don't want or can't support a gnome
> development environment.

FWIW, I'm actively doing just that and will be deploying a GTK-only
guile-gtk application with a (paying!) customer in the next week or so. 
We are developing on Compaq IPaqs, which don't really have the permanent
storage for a full Gnome environment.  

Thanks to Marius for splitting the guile libglade bindings out from
their Gnome dependencies!  glade+libglade+guile is a very very sweet
development environment for those who haven't tried it.  

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Re: ANNOUNCE: guile-gtk-1.2 0.31 has been released

[Dave Lambert]

>>>>> Clinton Ebadi <unknown_lamer@unknownlamer.org> writes:

| Are you going to work any on guile-gobject any? I talked to Ariel
| and he said he couldn't get it to work with the latest Gtk+ (it
| segfaults somewhere).  I've tried to debug it myself, but I can't

I have been working on guile-gobject in slow (very slow) time, and
have it working reasonably well.  I've also managed to port most of
the guile-gtk-1.2 gtk support.  I'll try and get something packaged up
for Monday, and hopefully someone else with more time/talent can take
it on.

Dave

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