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From: "John W. Eaton" <jwe@bevo.che.wisc.edu>
Cc: guile-user <guile-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: loop translations (was: Re: language translator help)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 09:29:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15564.1889.327611.808226@segfault.bogus.domain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87adrondbl.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>

On 28-Apr-2002, Marius Vollmer <mvo@zagadka.ping.de> wrote:

| "John W. Eaton" <jwe@bevo.che.wisc.edu> writes:
|
| Your approach is essentially right.  Let me try to formalize it a bit
| with some macros:

Thanks.  With the macros, the loops are much more readable to me, but
there is still the (apparent, at least to a Scheme novice) complexity
of call/cc.

| The functions created by '(let loop ...)' are totally ordinary functions
| and calling them in a non-tail context will 'push stack' and they will
| eventually return to the caller.

OK, I thought that might be the case.  But I didn't see the way to use
call/cc to jump to the end of the loop and keep going.

| The problem with the macros above is that they are not hygienic,

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what that means.

| avoiding call/cc is not so easy and is hopefully
| not really necessary.  One could generate continuation-passing code
| and hope that Guile will execute it more efficiently than the
| occasional call/cc,

What is continuation passing?

| or one could implement a cheaper version of
| call/cc that is not as powerful but is sufficient for 'with-exit'.  I
| think we should do the latter, if performance of call/cc turns out to
| be too bad.

It's important to me that looping not be any slower than it already is
in Octave.  It might be possible to scan loops for break/continue
statements and generate simpler loops when they are not present, but
I'd really rather avoid that if possible.  It would be much better if
break and continue statements did not generate a large performance
penalty.

jwe

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-28 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-26 17:55 language translator help John W. Eaton
2002-04-26 21:14 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-04-27  9:48 ` Neil Jerram
2002-04-28  0:47   ` John W. Eaton
2002-04-28  1:21     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-04-28  1:32       ` John W. Eaton
2002-04-28  2:10         ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-04-28 14:44           ` John W. Eaton
2002-04-28 18:41             ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-04-28 22:18               ` John W. Eaton
2002-04-29  5:16                 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-04-29 16:36                   ` John W. Eaton
2002-04-29 20:28                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-04-30 17:57                     ` MJ Ray
2002-05-01  6:31                       ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-04-30 22:49                     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-04-28 18:21       ` Neil Jerram
2002-04-28 18:42         ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-05-01 22:19           ` Neil Jerram
2002-05-15 11:35         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-15 20:49           ` Marius Vollmer
2002-05-15 23:13             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-16  0:26               ` Bill Gribble
2002-05-16  1:20                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-16  5:02                 ` Per Bothner
2002-05-16 21:57               ` Marius Vollmer
2002-05-16 22:36                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-22 12:37                   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-05-22 19:26                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-22 20:50                       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-05-22 22:23                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-23  0:23                           ` Marius Vollmer
2002-05-23  4:59                             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-23 11:37                               ` Bill Gribble
2002-05-23 23:41                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-23 11:46                           ` MJ Ray
2002-05-23 17:33                             ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found]                               ` <mvo@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-05-23 22:20                                 ` MJ Ray
2002-05-27 20:26                                   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-05-29  8:55                                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-29 18:56                                       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-05-29 19:17                                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-29 19:46                                           ` Marius Vollmer
2002-05-29 19:59                                             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-30 12:16                                               ` Marius Vollmer
2002-05-30 22:39                                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-30  2:28                                           ` Christopher Cramer
2002-05-30  7:38                                             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-04 22:58                                           ` MJ Ray
2002-06-04 23:56                                             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]                                               ` <ttn@giblet.glug.org>
2002-06-05  8:22                                                 ` MJ Ray
2002-06-05  9:42                                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-05 22:59                                                     ` MJ Ray
2002-06-05 23:32                                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-07 23:14                                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-05 23:54                                                 ` MJ Ray
2002-06-06  0:23                                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-06  2:44                                                     ` Bill Gribble
2002-06-06  7:23                                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-06  8:13                                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-06  9:24                                                 ` MJ Ray
2002-06-06 11:18                                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-07 23:25                                                     ` MJ Ray
2002-06-08  0:42                                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-08  4:49                                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-08 17:44                                                       ` rm
2002-06-10 16:45                                                         ` Marius Vollmer
2002-06-08 22:45                                                 ` MJ Ray
2002-06-08 23:18                                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-10 12:29                                                     ` MJ Ray
2002-06-10 12:31                                                     ` MJ Ray
2002-06-10 19:18                                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-10 23:30                                                 ` MJ Ray
2002-06-10 23:51                                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-11 17:50                                                     ` Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>
2002-06-11 20:09                                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-11 18:48                                                   ` news
2002-06-12 17:44                                                     ` Forking stables. was " MJ Ray
2002-06-12 20:31                                                       ` Rob Browning
2002-06-14 19:32                                                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-14 20:08                                                         ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-06-14 20:21                                                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-14 21:03                                                             ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-06-14 21:39                                                               ` Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>
2002-06-14 21:45                                                               ` news
2002-06-17 22:37                                                                 ` Neil Jerram
2002-06-17 23:06                                                                   ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-06-17 23:14                                                                     ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-06-17 23:35                                                                   ` Bill Gribble
2002-06-18 18:40                                                                   ` news
2002-10-04 17:53                                                                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-15  6:29                                                               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-09-08 18:48                                                 ` guile 1.4.1.86 (snap) available MJ Ray
2002-09-08 20:09                                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-18 13:47           ` language translator help Neil Jerram
2002-05-19  2:32             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-19  3:03               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-04-28  6:53     ` Per Bothner
2002-04-28 18:21     ` Neil Jerram
2002-04-28  0:53   ` loop translations (was: Re: language translator help) John W. Eaton
2002-04-28  1:33     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-04-28  5:06       ` David Pirotte
2002-04-28  9:52         ` rm
2002-04-28 13:49     ` Marius Vollmer
2002-04-28 14:29       ` John W. Eaton [this message]
2002-04-28 18:15         ` Marius Vollmer
2002-04-28 18:48           ` Marius Vollmer
2002-04-29 20:07             ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-04-29 20:50               ` Eric E Moore
2002-04-30 15:07                 ` Eric E Moore
2002-04-28 18:21     ` Neil Jerram
2002-04-28  0:54   ` translators and scoping rules " John W. Eaton
2002-04-28 13:50     ` Marius Vollmer
2002-04-28 14:03       ` John W. Eaton
2002-04-28 14:35         ` Marius Vollmer
2002-04-29  2:26           ` John W. Eaton
2002-05-07 18:50             ` Marius Vollmer
2002-04-28 15:26         ` Per Bothner
2002-04-29  2:08           ` John W. Eaton
2002-04-29  4:37             ` Per Bothner
2002-04-29 16:27               ` John W. Eaton
2002-04-28 18:21     ` Neil Jerram
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-08  6:23 guile 1.4.1.86 (snap) available Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-09-08 17:21 ` MJ Ray
2002-09-08 17:45   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen

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