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From: "Aleix Conchillo Flaqué" <aconchillo@gmail.com>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Cc: guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] web: default to INADDR_ANY instead of INADDR_LOOPBACK
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 10:14:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+XASoX7A8da0AoU8i6AURr-X02a46979va76_A6owEstuHa7Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8d7255ee-07b2-bd66-2e33-75c8d112756e@telenet.be>

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Thank you Maxime,

On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 2:44 AM Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> wrote:

> On 22-07-2022 02:44, Aleix Conchillo Flaqué wrote:
>
> ping. easy one but might be more controversial.
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 4:26 PM Aleix Conchillo Flaqué <
> aconchillo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Using INADDR_ANY instead of INADDR_LOOPBACK makes it convenient when
>> starting the web server inside containers
>
> I don't see what containers have to do with anything? If you want it to
> access the Internet, just don't do a network container (don't create a new
> network namespace).  Or to reduce access, do create a new network namespace
> but set up port forwarding (which I would expect to work with loopback).
>

Now that I read it again, I have no clue what containers have to do with
this either, especially because I never run Guile in a container... So,
forget about the container reference.



> without the need to having to
>> specify INADDR_ANY all the time.
>>
> I don't recommend this as a default, as it opens up potential security
> problems (some programs open a web server for local communication on the
> computer). INADDR_LOOPBACK is a safe default, anyone needing something else
> and knowing their use is safe can easily override to INADDR_ANY.
>
> This is the default in most libraries and languages.
>
> Is ad populum. Plenty of bad choices have been made in the past, see e.g.
> all the CVEs, so I don't think this is a good argument.  (It is an argument
> if you are switching to INADDR_ANY for _consistency_, but the patch appears
> to be for other purposes.)
>
>
Makes sense. Thank you for the reply!

Best,

Aleix

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-22 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-03  0:26 [PATCH] web: default to INADDR_ANY instead of INADDR_LOOPBACK Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2022-02-03  7:25 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-07-22  0:44 ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2022-07-22  9:44   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-22 17:14     ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué [this message]
2022-07-22 11:45   ` Greg Troxel
2022-07-22 17:16     ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué

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