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From: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
To: "Aleix Conchillo Flaqué" <aconchillo@gmail.com>,
	guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] web: default to INADDR_ANY instead of INADDR_LOOPBACK
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 11:44:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d7255ee-07b2-bd66-2e33-75c8d112756e@telenet.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+XASoU51=kH9=a0UU4tyeewq-Gd1PHhCjgV+gPm3+o8d-8=RQ@mail.gmail.com>


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On 22-07-2022 02:44, Aleix Conchillo Flaqué wrote:

> ping. easy one but might be more controversial.
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 4:26 PM Aleix Conchillo Flaqué 
> <aconchillo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Using INADDR_ANY instead of INADDR_LOOPBACK makes it convenient when
>     starting the web server inside containers
>
I don't see what containers have to do with anything? If you want it to 
access the Internet, just don't do a network container (don't create a 
new network namespace).  Or to reduce access, do create a new network 
namespace but set up port forwarding (which I would expect to work with 
loopback).
>
>     without the need to having to
>     specify INADDR_ANY all the time.
>
I don't recommend this as a default, as it opens up potential security 
problems (some programs open a web server for local communication on the 
computer). INADDR_LOOPBACK is a safe default, anyone needing something 
else and knowing their use is safe can easily override to INADDR_ANY.

> This is the default in most libraries and languages.
Is ad populum. Plenty of bad choices have been made in the past, see 
e.g. all the CVEs, so I don't think this is a good argument. (It is an 
argument if you are switching to INADDR_ANY for _consistency_, but the 
patch appears to be for other purposes.)

Greetings,
Maxime.


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-22  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-03  0:26 [PATCH] web: default to INADDR_ANY instead of INADDR_LOOPBACK Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2022-02-03  7:25 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-07-22  0:44 ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2022-07-22  9:44   ` Maxime Devos [this message]
2022-07-22 17:14     ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2022-07-22 11:45   ` Greg Troxel
2022-07-22 17:16     ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué

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