From: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
To: Mikael Djurfeldt <mikael@djurfeldt.com>
Cc: guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: guile 3 update, halloween edition
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:13:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ftj8j3jz.fsf@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA2XvwJAERXFeAGc8S5ufWRR0z+ujpGvw0JDA94bL_0k_fyu-w@mail.gmail.com> (Mikael Djurfeldt's message of "Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:17:31 +0100")
Hey :)
On Thu 31 Oct 2019 15:17, Mikael Djurfeldt <mikael@djurfeldt.com> writes:
> How does the record subtyping relate to GOOPS? I do realize that there
> are issues related to keeping bootstrapping lean, but shouldn't record
> types and classes share mechanisms?
They share the struct layer.
Records are simple: their fields are laid out in order, are all unboxed,
and can be treated as a simple kind of nominal product type. `match'
takes advantage of this.
GOOPS is more flexible: it can have different slot allocations, unboxed
slots, multiple inheritance, and so on. Because of multiple inheritance
its accessors have to do dynamic dispatch; whereas for records, if
supertype A allocates slot X to index I, all subtypes will have that
slot in the same place. A check whether a record is an instance of A is
a simple O(1) check, rather than the CPL search of GOOPS.
Exceptions have a kind of multiple inheritance, but it's more about
object composition than typing. You can make a compound condition from
a heterogeneous collection of other conditions. While you could
implement compound conditions with subtyping, it's more straightforward
to use composition.
I think the current status is close to the sweet spot but your thoughts
are welcome :) I would dearly like to be able to subtype records in
GOOPS, but having looked at it a few times I haven't found quite the
right way to do it.
Cheers,
Andy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-31 16:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-30 20:13 guile 3 update, halloween edition Andy Wingo
2019-10-30 21:19 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-10-31 0:01 ` Chris Vine
2019-10-31 16:20 ` Andy Wingo
2019-10-31 17:27 ` Chris Vine
2019-10-31 1:31 ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-31 1:47 ` Thompson, David
2019-10-31 14:17 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-31 16:13 ` Andy Wingo [this message]
2019-10-31 14:46 ` David Pirotte
2019-10-31 16:44 ` Sjoerd van Leent
2019-11-02 5:20 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-11-02 19:33 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-11-03 19:16 ` Andy Wingo
2019-11-03 20:18 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-11-15 9:03 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-11-15 10:23 ` Andy Wingo
2019-11-16 15:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-11-17 19:33 ` Andy Wingo
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