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From: John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au>
To: Andreas Rottmann <mail@rotty.xx.vu>
Cc: 20822@debbugs.gnu.org, Zefram <zefram@fysh.org>
Subject: bug#20822: environment mangled by locale
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:50:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150616205017.GA23390@jocasta.intra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874mm7whcr.fsf@delenn.home.rotty.xx.vu>

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On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:03:48PM +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote:
     John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au> writes:
     
     > Can we configure this mailing list better?
     >
     > Many (all?) of the messages posted have no obvious indication of which
     > mailing list they are coming from.
     >
     > The subject line is something like "bug#12345: description"
     > The To: field is 12354@debbugs.gnu.org
     >
     > In general, it takes a lot of detective work to discover that message
     > relates to guile.
     >
     No, it doesn't, there's a List-Id header in all messages sent out via
     the list:
     
     List-Id: "Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language" <bug-guile.gnu.org>

OK Thanks.  If that is invariant, then I'll set a rule accordingly.  
Now that I know, I can do that.
     
     Putting an
     identifier into the subject just clutters the view for people who have
     set up their email clients appropriatly for use with mailing list.

I don't agree.  In fact, I set my email client for use with mailing lists.  That is why
I made the suggestion.  I like to know if I'm receiving personally addressed mail, or
mail via a list (without having to explicitly check the envelope and all headers).
     
     >From the email headers of your post, it seems you use mutt; I don't know
     if mutt has built-in support for grouping based on List-Id (I'd guess
     no), but you can use a tool (MDA) like "maildrop"[1], "scmail"[2] or
     "procmail"[3]" to automatically put the email you receive via mailing
     lists into different (e.g.) IMAP mailboxes.

I do know how to use my computer - I just didn't know what field this list
used to identify itself.  But thanks for reminding me anyway.
     
     > Can it not be configured to Prepend the Subject: line with Bug-Guile
     > or something similar?  That way it'd be easier to manage - either
     > manually or automatically.
     >
     As mentioned above, this is not a good idea.

There are a lot of email conventions which are not good ideas.  They are nevertheless
ubiquitous, and refusing to conform to them is also not a good idea.
     
Anyway, I'll set a rule on the List-Id field as you suggested and  hopefully that'll
fix the problem.

Sorry for the noise.

J'

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-16 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-16  4:17 bug#20822: environment mangled by locale Zefram
2015-06-16  6:26 ` John Darrington
2015-06-16 20:03   ` Andreas Rottmann
2015-06-16 20:50     ` John Darrington [this message]
2016-03-04 23:22 ` Zefram
2016-06-24  5:57 ` Andy Wingo
2016-06-26  1:10   ` Mark H Weaver
2016-06-26 10:33     ` Zefram

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