From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Darrington Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.bugs Subject: bug#20822: environment mangled by locale Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:50:17 +0200 Message-ID: <20150616205017.GA23390@jocasta.intra> References: <20150616041736.GA2718@fysh.org> <20150616062631.GA700@jocasta.intra> <874mm7whcr.fsf@delenn.home.rotty.xx.vu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434487883 22423 80.91.229.3 (16 Jun 2015 20:51:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20822@debbugs.gnu.org, Zefram To: Andreas Rottmann Original-X-From: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 16 22:51:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-bugs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4xp9-0006hi-Ao for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:51:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42814 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4xp8-0001jU-Qu for guile-bugs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:51:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40894) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4xp4-0001jM-Tw for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:51:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4xp1-0000FZ-Ew for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:51:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41879) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4xp1-0000FV-Ap for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:51:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4xp0-0005uS-UQ for bug-guile@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:51:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: John Darrington Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guile@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20822 X-GNU-PR-Package: guile X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20822-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20822.143448782522668 (code B ref 20822); Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:51:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jun 2015 20:50:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56339 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4xoN-0005tW-Hr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:50:24 -0400 Original-Received: from de.cellform.com ([88.217.224.109]:55491 helo=jocasta.intra) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4xoJ-0005tM-P3 for 20822@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:50:22 -0400 Original-Received: from jocasta.intra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jocasta.intra (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4) with ESMTP id t5GKoILv023503 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:50:18 +0200 Original-Received: (from john@localhost) by jocasta.intra (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id t5GKoH0k023502; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:50:17 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874mm7whcr.fsf@delenn.home.rotty.xx.vu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-guile@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-guile-bounces+guile-bugs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.bugs:7797 Archived-At: --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:03:48PM +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote: John Darrington writes: =20 > Can we configure this mailing list better? > > Many (all?) of the messages posted have no obvious indication of whi= ch > mailing list they are coming from. > > The subject line is something like "bug#12345: description" > The To: field is 12354@debbugs.gnu.org > > In general, it takes a lot of detective work to discover that message > relates to guile. > No, it doesn't, there's a List-Id header in all messages sent out via the list: =20 List-Id: "Bug reports for GUILE, GNU's Ubiquitous Extension Language" = OK Thanks. If that is invariant, then I'll set a rule accordingly. =20 Now that I know, I can do that. =20 Putting an identifier into the subject just clutters the view for people who have set up their email clients appropriatly for use with mailing list. I don't agree. In fact, I set my email client for use with mailing lists. = That is why I made the suggestion. I like to know if I'm receiving personally addresse= d mail, or mail via a list (without having to explicitly check the envelope and all he= aders). =20 >From the email headers of your post, it seems you use mutt; I don't k= now if mutt has built-in support for grouping based on List-Id (I'd guess no), but you can use a tool (MDA) like "maildrop"[1], "scmail"[2] or "procmail"[3]" to automatically put the email you receive via mailing lists into different (e.g.) IMAP mailboxes. I do know how to use my computer - I just didn't know what field this list used to identify itself. But thanks for reminding me anyway. =20 > Can it not be configured to Prepend the Subject: line with Bug-Guile > or something similar? That way it'd be easier to manage - either > manually or automatically. > As mentioned above, this is not a good idea. There are a lot of email conventions which are not good ideas. They are ne= vertheless ubiquitous, and refusing to conform to them is also not a good idea. =20 Anyway, I'll set a rule on the List-Id field as you suggested and hopefull= y that'll fix the problem. Sorry for the noise. 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